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#59 of 187 Re: The new Civic to be unveiled next month! [mauto]
Jan 23, 2005 (6:45 am)
Especially when you realize that the new Golf gives the current Civic all of the appeal of a riding mower.
Actually, any decent small car of very recent vintage is better than the current Civic, which many have complained was designed too conservatively. Given the tone of Honda CEO Takeo Fukui's remarks lately, I expect the next-generation Civic to go back to the more "sporting" Civics of the 1990's. And if the spy pictures taken in the UK recently is that of the new Civic, that tells me the styling of all models will be quite radical compared to the current models.
Jan 23, 2005 (8:02 am)
As long as this new radical design looks good, I'm fine with it.
#61 of 187 The current Civic facelift worked because
Jan 23, 2005 (8:53 pm)
It make the car prettier! The Civic has a list of benefits and market advantages no other small car can match, so I wouldn't go too radical in the redesign. It ain't broke!
That said, just sitting in the Scion tC, then the Civic coupe was like losing $5k in interior style and materials. The Scion is on another level, interior-wise.
The Mazda 3 just drives beautifully, with MUCH greater handling limits than the Civic. And obviously that is more a Jetta in regards to it's available luxury.
And everyone has a better warranty and more power.
All I know is the Ex Civic is supposed to go to 140Hp. No big news there.
I am considering a sub-$20k car. They all have flaws. The Civic seems downmarket compared to the Mazda 3 and tC. And everybody has one, so if you want to be one in a crowd....
#62 of 187 Wait till the car comes out, then judge.
Jan 23, 2005 (9:50 pm)
Bottom line: If the new Civic offers better performance, ride and build quality, and more features at a reasonable price, I'll buy it. If it doesn't, then I'll buy a competitor's product. Simple as that.
Jan 24, 2005 (5:57 am)
The new Civic is rumored to have the CRX line as well. I always thought that if CRX were continued it would look like Insight. I wonder if the new CRX will have the same weight/hp ratio as the CRX of yore, around 1200lbs/125hp. The highest perfomance Civic, the RSX-S is 2700/200(or 215 for the new), which is still heavier per HP than CRX.
#64 of 187 Re: New Civic [blueiedgod]
Jan 26, 2005 (5:24 am)
I don't think any CRX weighed 1200lbs. Maybe you're thinking 1200 Kg. And no, the new CRX if/when arrives will not be a lightweight due to safety and structural stiffness requirements which result in a more solid ride/better handling.
#65 of 187 Re: New Civic [mauto]
Jan 26, 2005 (7:13 am)
IIRC, the 84 1.3 CRX clocked in around 1900 pounds. I had a 79 1200 Civic that *may* have been around 1500.
#66 of 187 Re: New Civic [blueiedgod]
Jan 26, 2005 (6:34 pm)
According to Edmunds.com Used Car research area, a 1991 CRX had a curb weight of 2,103 lbs 92 hp (22.9 lbs/hp). The 1991 CRX Si weighed in at 2,174 lbs 108 hp (20.1 lbs/hp).
The acura.com website lists the RSX Type S weight at 2,840 lbs 210 hp (13.5 lbs/hp). Much better than the CRX.
#68 of 187 Would you buy a Civic
Jan 28, 2005 (8:03 am)
If it looked like a Sunfire?