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Honda Civic: Future Models

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Re: 09 Civic changes [backy] by tiff_c
Aug 04, 2008 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 02, 2008 10:45 am)

Do you know on which trims VSA will be available? I just saw a preview in C/D that said it would be on the hybrid, but didn't mention any other trims that would have VSA.
 
I guess it goes without saying that the 2009 Civic Si will have VSC, since my 2008 has it.
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Re: 09 Civic changes [tiff_c] by backy
Aug 04, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Aug 04, 2008 5:01 am)

Uh... yeah, I assumed Honda would keep VSA on the Si. I had read that VSA would be added to other Civic trims for 2009.
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Re: 09 Civic changes [backy] by tiff_c
Aug 04, 2008 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 04, 2008 6:36 am)

Uh... yeah, I assumed Honda would keep VSA on the Si. I had read that VSA would be added to other Civic trims for 2009.
 
I think it's going to be pure speculation as to what models will and will not have it. For certain all cars in the US will have stability control in 2012 as it will be mandatory.
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Re: 09 Civic changes [tiff_c] by backy
Aug 04, 2008 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Aug 04, 2008 2:00 pm)

Since the 2009s will be arriving in the not too distant future, I thought maybe someone (like one of our resident Honda salespeople) had heard some details about which Civics get VSA for 2009 and which don't. It appears not.
 
I need to buy a car (actually at least 2) before 2012.
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All the info you need on 09 Honda models by kbryant
Aug 05, 2008 (8:01 am)
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http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=780325
 
This should help.
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Re: All the info you need on 09 Honda models [kbryant] by backy
Aug 05, 2008 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: kbryant (Aug 05, 2008 8:01 am)

Thanks very much for that link! But it confirmed my worst fears... Honda thinks that only people who can afford a top-end Civic deserve the added safety of stability control.
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Re: All the info you need on 09 Honda models [backy] by kbryant
Aug 05, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 05, 2008 8:23 am)

Thanks very much for that link! But it confirmed my worst fears... Honda thinks that only people who can afford a top-end Civic deserve the added safety of stability control.
 
Until Honda and other car manfacturers figure out that people want the added safety of stability control at all price points we'll just have to deal with it. Wouldn't traction control help more than stability though....????
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Re: All the info you need on 09 Honda models [kbryant] by backy
Aug 05, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: kbryant (Aug 05, 2008 11:14 am)

Kind of a moot point, since the low-end Civics don't offer traction control either. And usually traction control comes with ESC. My current car has traction control, but I use such light pressure on the pedal (especially in the slips) that it almost never kicks in.
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Re: 09 Civic changes [backy] by tiff_c
Aug 05, 2008 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 04, 2008 2:24 pm)

Since the 2009s will be arriving in the not too distant future, I thought maybe someone (like one of our resident Honda salespeople) had heard some details about which Civics get VSA for 2009 and which don't. It appears not
 
I think most dealers don't get all that much info in advance. I think the magazines probably get it sooner in many cases.
Why they keep details like seat height and stability control a secret until the last minute is beyond me. I guess it could prevent sales of older models. However there really aren't many 2008's left.
The dealers are price gouging so much right now. I doubt VSA will be on the Civic LX but who knows on the EX. The High end Fit will have VSA as long as you get Nav with it.
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Re: 09 Civic changes [tiff_c] by backy
Aug 05, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Aug 05, 2008 2:33 pm)

It's now official: the 2009 Civic will get VSA only on the EX-L and Hybrid (and of course it's still on the Si). Not on the LX.
 
In this case, I think Honda should have announced a long time ago that only the highest-end Civic trims would have VSA. Then the people who might be waiting for a Civic (not the EX-L or Hybrid or Si) with VSA might have said, "Oh, what the heck!" and gone ahead and bought a 2008 Civic.

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