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Honda Civic: Future Models

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What is this discussion about? Honda Civic CRX, Honda Civic, Honda Civic del Sol, Concept Cars, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Hatchback, Sedan


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#116 of 185
by dudleyr
Mar 01, 2005 (6:28 pm)
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Element is an SUV that lacks the nimble size of a car, and it uses more fuel than a V-6 Accord much less a Civic. It also only seats 4.
 
As far as I am concerned it is closer to a Suburban than it is to a Civic. Unfortunately Honda and others have abandoned wagons and hatches because more people agree with varmint. The feeling seems to be that a vehicle has to be ponderous and inefficient to have utility.
 
The SUV acronym is truely genius as it gave features to a class of vehicles that was neither sporty or utilitarian (for their size and weight). Fortunately the tide is turning and there are more wagons coming out. Honda will just take a while - they are slow to adapt. VW had fuel injection in all their vehicles 10 years before Honda.
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Small Wagons by varmint
Mar 01, 2005 (7:47 pm)
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VTEC
Hybrids
Cross-overs
Magic seat
The in-bed trunk
The CVCC
SH-AWD
120 hp/liter
Nav systems
 
Yeah... Honda is way behind.
 
As for the Element, I think it's simply a matter of people recognizing what they actually do with their vehicles. What good is a wagon with nimble handling when you creep along in traffic all the time.
 
With a vehicle like the Element, xB, or PT Cruiser, you can enjoy the car for its trick features, styling, or functionality. And you can see where you're going.
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Re: Want 5 door Hatchback [wanthonda] by blueiedgod
Mar 02, 2005 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: wanthonda (Mar 01, 2005 9:29 am)

Is it possible to buy the 5 door hatchback in US?
 
Both Element and CR-V are based on the Civic. They both use the same 2.4 liter found in Accord, and offer AWD.
 
As much as I would like a 5 door hatch, if I were faced with buying a $20,000 Civic 5 door, or $20,000 Element, I would probably go for the Element. Although, I did not like the way it drove, dollar for dollar, Element, offers more.
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Re: Want 5 door Hatchback [blueiedgod] by turboshadow
Mar 03, 2005 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Mar 02, 2005 6:11 am)

As much as I would like a 5 door hatch, if I were faced with buying a $20,000 Civic 5 door, or $20,000 Element, I would probably go for the Element. Although, I did not like the way it drove, dollar for dollar, Element, offers more.
 
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Ugh. Element would offer poorer performance, worse mileage and worse handling than a Civic 5 door. I'd take the 5 door every time. I like to stop, go, and turn too much to spend money on high, tippy vehicles. been there, done that, I'll never do it again.
 
Plus, and this is just my opinion, the Element is the ugliest thing on the road since the Aztek is gone. xB give it a good run for the money in the ugly department.
 
Turboshadow
#120 of 185
Elemnt is a decent Civic by blueiedgod
Mar 04, 2005 (4:17 am)
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It can be lowered

 
Plastic can be painted


Or both

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Re: Elemnt is a decent Civic [blueiedgod] by turboshadow
Mar 04, 2005 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Mar 04, 2005 4:17 am)

You can stick a candle in a cow pie, but that won't make it a birthday cake.
 
Turboshadow
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ROFL by dudleyr
Mar 04, 2005 (8:45 am)
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by dudleyr
Mar 04, 2005 (8:48 am)
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It is not all about size. Just because the element is larger does not mean it is better. In fact it is worse at just about everything, except cargo space. It only seats 4 for goodness sakes.
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Re: Elemnt is a decent Civic [blueiedgod] by jrct9454
Mar 04, 2005 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Mar 04, 2005 4:17 am)

Nothing like taking a car that already looks silly, and making it even more so...oh well....
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by varmint
Mar 04, 2005 (3:09 pm)
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Honda sells 3-5K Elements each month. How many Civic hatches do they sell?

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