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Honda Civic CRX, Honda Civic, Honda Civic del Sol, Coupe, Hatchback, Sedan
#9326 of 10740 2010 Civic LX-S Manual
Feb 23, 2010 (7:21 pm)
Just bought a brand new 2010LX-S manual with splash guards for $16K plus $150 doc fee plus sales tax. I took Honda's 1.9% for 60 months.
The list is $18,900. At list price, Civics are overpriced. I could have bought a 2010 Kia Forte EX 5M with sunroof/alloy wheels for $15,500 w/o any Kia Financing. I chose the Civic since it will have a better resale value.
No light in glove box, no backlight in power window switches (except driver), no outside temp readout, no hood/trunk insulation, no XM radio ....all std. in a Forte are disappointing.
The insurance premium on this car is higher than in our 2004 RX330 or 2001 Mercedes E430. This might be common in all small cars. Check/compare premiums before buying a Civic. Over 5-7 years of ownership, you might be better off with an Accord.
#9327 of 10740 2010 Honda Civic Sedan LX Auto price and experience
Feb 23, 2010 (8:58 pm)
Dear Fellow Honda Drivers, Sympathizers or Prospective Buyers,
Since I intensively read and used the information provided I think it is only fair to share my 2 cents and my price.
1. I requested an Itemized OTD (Out-of-The-Door =drive out price) quote from all Honda dealers in the area (50 miles radius), except the closest one. About 8 in Cleveland area.
2. When they sent "c.ap" I had a short message ending "Thank you, I can not engage if you do not provide an itemized OTD".
3. I've got a few quote and one was aggressive enough with good price.
4. Sent the best quote to the other dealers if they can beat it.
5. Answers received:
a). Some were honest saying no, I can not do better, you better take it.
b). Some said they can do 50$ better.
c). Some said they can't do it but if I provide them the email, they will "match anything".
d). "Our price is..number plus doc and titles". Ask for specifics Itemized OTD, if not provided, I discarded.
6. I've printed the best quote (without the 50$, not the b)) and went to the closest one with a message on a paper and left it to General Sales Manager. He wanted me to ...wait and "we can do this" and my answer was: "Call me if you can beat it.". He never called. It is a mouse and cat game sometimes I guess .
7. I went with the first good offer that others can only beat by 50$. I figured I have to honor the honest people. I kept the other on the list just in case.
Decoding of the answers number 5:
-Getting quite a few a) and one or two b) type answers means you reached the best price in the area.
-The d) are the bottom feeders, my advise stay away. As persons they may be nice but the company is all that you can imagine bad in a dealer practices. They do not engage, and I bet the other dealers does not like them either .
-I used the b) as backup.
I stayed away of people that say "we already provided a quote" and they did not do an Itemized OTD. Especially, when they do it if you corner them, they have the price provided by a picture in the email that needs to be uploaded in the message. That allows the offer/picture to change. And you realize their offer is not even competitive.
There were 2 dealers that provided their best price at the beginning.
I went to the dealer pre-approved from my Credit Union and had some down-payment too. The price I negotiated were 2 fold: either Cash price or using Honda special financing price. Soon became obvious that the cash price is the best even if you factor in the interest for the credit union.
I used excel PMT function to do the calculations on the payment, put in a cell:
Get the cost of the the loan by previousValue*noPayments-sumToFinance.
Long story short, nice charts can be built with comparative offers.
My final price was:
Car Price 16073
County Tax OH (7.75%) price+docs 1265.0325
total OTD 17621.5325
Down payment 3114.04
Financed 3 years rate 3.49 14507.4925
Total interest to be paid $793.00
Total Price after 3 years 18301.28
My credit Union was 4% but I would have had to go get the check another day.They "beat it", but the point was I "saved" a trip and 118$ interest over 3 years. I would definitely advise to have a credit union pre-approval under the belt.
Well, the only way to "save" money is actually not to buy, or it is just me .
In conclusion my wife drove her car home, I drove in front in my Civic 2003 Sedan that still runs like a swiss clock after 6 years and 130,000 miles. I figured she will enjoy her Honda as much as I did mine and ...continue to enjoy.
P.S. My dealer that I rate ***** was Classic Honda for people in the Cleveland area. I would recommend only to friends . Very good and professional. They are just not used to people that actually read what they sign. They call them "readers". I know is pejoratively said but still I like to be called "reader". .
#9328 of 10740 Re: What I paid: Civic LX 4 door 2010 (auto) [socrates_is_me]
Feb 23, 2010 (9:11 pm)
Do not worry about it. Enjoy the car.
Some mentioned here awhile ago that you have a few days to cancel the extra warranty if you wish. Check into that. I think it is true.
That will not lower your monthly payment but would shorten your time by that amount.
Also, some time ago you could buy the warranty for less on the internet, still honda warranty. I do not know if it is still available.
#9329 of 10740 2010 Civic LX and LX-S in NJ
Feb 25, 2010 (10:47 am)
Looking to make a purchase this weekend and after few emails to 4-5 dealerships, I have the following best quotes.
LX: $15,395 + $710 dest + 7% tax + MV fees + $199 dealer doc fee
LX-S: $16,256 + $710 dest + 7% tax + MV fees + $249 dealer doc fee
Possible to get better or anyone in North NJ been able to get better recently?
Still considering if LX-S is worth the extra money.
#9330 of 10740 2010 civic LX in southen california
Feb 26, 2010 (3:18 pm)
Can anyone share if you got good deal on civic LX in southen california? The best offer I got is $18500 OTD and I wonder if thats good.... thanks!
#9331 of 10740 Re: 2010 civic LX in southen california [ick]
Feb 26, 2010 (8:46 pm)
That seems a bit high but maybe not for the area.
I purchased a LX sedan in Oklahoma this evening for the following:
Price paid: 16,166 + 99.00 doc fee
I am pretty satisfied with price and buying experience.
#9332 of 10740 Civic LX Albany NY - $16,300
Feb 27, 2010 (12:58 pm)
Bought one from Lia Honda in Albany NY today for $16,300 + $1304 sales tax + $272 DMV fees with Honda financing at 1.9%/60mo for a total $17,876.
#9333 of 10740 Civic EX - Milwaukee, WI
Mar 01, 2010 (8:39 pm)
I am collecting quotes from dealers in the Milwaukee, WI area. Have one from across the border in IL for $18,569 OTD (without tax, title, license - which i believe would all be paid to WI. Edmunds True value is 19,421 - so that appears to be a relatively good deal. It is an 80 mile drive to IL and have to hassle through the WI DMV rather than getting title, plates, etc. at the dealer - but it may be worth it.
Anybody have anything good or bad about buying across state lines?
Mar 02, 2010 (4:16 pm)
This means total "out the door"...tax, doc & any other fees the dealer can come up with. The price you were given is not an "otd" price.
#9335 of 10740 Civic LX - Tewksbury, MA
Mar 02, 2010 (4:59 pm)
Hey, I've received a quote of $16,147 + the 6.25% sales tax + $299 doc fee + $29 sticker + 125 license plate by email. Is this a good deal?