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#9167 of 9204 Re: 2010 Civic EX-L [isellhondas] by cheapreading Nov 06, 2009 (6:16 pm)
Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 06, 2009 4:44 pm) Fair point re: doc fee. I should have said it's margin. Margin - costs = profit (or loss)
#9168 of 9204 Re: 2010 Civic EX-L [isellhondas] by lucky15 Nov 06, 2009 (7:11 pm)
Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 06, 2009 4:44 pm) There is such a thing as gross profit and net profit that a lot of people don`t even think about when buying, what happend to the days when operating costs were taken out of the gross profit made from the sale of the vehicle, these so-called document fees is just another way of adding to the gross profit which in return adds to the net profit. It is no different than carpet places that used to include removing the old carpet in their gross profit, now they charge you for removing the old carpet which increases their gross profit and in return increases their net profit. Is is a ploy that many buisnesses use now days to increase their profit base at the expense of the customer, It is commonly referred to as GREED!!!!! Replies to this message: isellhondas (Nov 07, 2009 10:26 am) lucky15 (Nov 07, 2009 1:06 pm) isellhondas (Nov 07, 2009 4:54 pm) jogousa (Nov 07, 2009 4:49 pm)
#9169 of 9204 Re: 2010 Civic EX-L [lucky15] by isellhondas Nov 07, 2009 (10:26 am)
Replying to: lucky15 (Nov 06, 2009 7:11 pm) I don't know why profit is a dirty word for some people who seem to think a business can survive without making money.   Big difference between trying to stay in business, pay overhead and expenses, pay taxes and still have a bottom line. Not GREED as you say.   Let's use the carpet stores as an example...   Today competition comes from everywhere. The Home Depots etc that were never in that business are today along with everyone else.   Disposal fees have gone through the roof. They can simply add the price of dispoals and removal to the price of their carpet or they can show it as a seperate charge. They never "included" anything. They just buried it in the per yard price of the installed carpet.   On the other hand, I've heard of doc fees as high as 800.00 and that is nuts.   There is no free lunch! Replies to this message: lucky15 (Nov 07, 2009 1:06 pm) isellhondas (Nov 07, 2009 4:54 pm)
#9170 of 9204 Re: 2010 Civic EX-L [isellhondas] by lucky15 Nov 07, 2009 (1:06 pm)
Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 07, 2009 10:26 am) I don`t have a problem with businesses making a (fair) profit, that is what it is all about but I do have a problem with businesses grouping together in COLLUSION or PRICE FIXING, there used to be laws against it, now it is just like everything else, the politicians in charge don`t care or they are in on the take with the companies. In todays world of modern technology the paper work involved at a dealership for the sale of a car can be done in a matter of minutes, $50.00 .would be a reasonable cost not the ridiculous amounts charged by some as you stated, and there are still a few carpet companies that don`t charge extra for removeing the old carpet and disposal, they feel that the profit they made on the sale of the carpet was sufficient, IMAGINE THAT. I`ve read your posts for some time now, you seem like a pretty intelligent person, don`t let me down now. Replies to this message: isellhondas (Nov 07, 2009 4:54 pm)
#9171 of 9204 Re: 2010 Civic EX-L [lucky15] by jogousa Nov 07, 2009 (4:49 pm)
Replying to: lucky15 (Nov 06, 2009 7:11 pm) Lucky 15: "ploy" ? You've got to be kidding, right? Have you ever (or do you) own your business? Apparently not.... So, anybody who wants to run a profitable business is greedy?   Many dealerships have designated person (who may not be a full time employee) who processes DMV paperwork, comes twice or 3-times a week. One would assume that this person is paid a decent wage... how do you cover that?   Larger dealers may have full time person designated for such tasks but contrary to common belief it's not just clicking on computer keyboard.   It's a no brainer that dealers typically don't make so much on new car sales as the used car lot is a back bone of any dealership.   As far as the carpet, I rather pay for removing and dumping it than have to dispose it myself not to mention that disposal of certain items may be restricted to certain sites only.   200 to 300 dollars for "docs fee" seems to be reasonable as long as it is disclosed early and doesn't come as a surprise when buyer enters F&I office for final signature.
#9172 of 9204 Re: 2010 Civic EX-L [lucky15] by isellhondas Nov 07, 2009 (4:54 pm)
Replying to: lucky15 (Nov 07, 2009 1:06 pm) There are still laws against price fixing.   You are missing my point so let me try to restate it.   The carpet companies that "don't charge" extra for removing and disposing of the old carpet ARE charging you! They simply add it into the price of the carpet!   Nothing is ever "free".   Call the carpet company and get an estimate.   Then tell them that you will pull out all of the old carpet and dispose of it yourself.   Ask them for a revised estimate with you doing this!   Guess what? Since they will save hours of labor and disposal fees, the estimate will be lower. Probably much lower!   IMAGINE THAT!
#9173 of 9204 civic LX ... fog light by canlfc Nov 07, 2009 (6:11 pm)
Hi! I'm thinking of buying a new 2010 honda civic LX and I got some quotes for dealers. The best quote I got was $17000 (includes destination and documentation fees) . The tax, tag and title will cost around $650 to 700. I think the price is fair. Anyone bought 2010 LX recently?   I'm also thinking of adding fog lights and window tinting. The dealer quote for fog lights is $681, which I think is too overpriced. I checked the honda website and the price of fog lights is only $325. Does anyone know what's the average market price for installing fog lights ?   I'm thinking of counter offer the dealer with $18000 for the total final cost with the accessories and taxes.   Also, does anyone know what is the cost for warranty?   Thank you so much. Replies to this message: isellhondas (Nov 08, 2009 12:52 pm) jogousa (Nov 08, 2009 1:24 pm) isellhondas (Nov 08, 2009 1:31 pm) jogousa (Nov 10, 2009 7:25 pm) and 2 more... canlfc (Nov 09, 2009 8:05 am) robertson4379 (Nov 20, 2009 8:17 am)
#9174 of 9204 Civic pricing.. by kyfdx HOST Nov 08, 2009 (7:54 am)
Let's stick to it..
#9175 of 9204 Re: 2010 Civic EX-L price [jogousa] by gammagator Nov 08, 2009 (12:03 pm)
Replying to: jogousa (Nov 04, 2009 3:25 am) jogousa, I bought the 2010 Civic EX-L in Lake City and my OTD price was $23,750. I think some folks have a different meaning of Out The Door based on some of the prices I see on here. This car had moon roof visor, rear wing spoiler, mud guards, trunk tray, and pin striping added. I also got 2.9% financing from Honda. This dealership was nice to deal with and was by far the easiest car buying experience that I ever had. I don't know where you are located by I have also in the past bought a Honda Accord from the dealer in Daytona Beach, when I lived there. They were not bad to deal with either. Replies to this message: middleclass (Nov 09, 2009 7:13 am) gammagator (Nov 10, 2009 6:22 pm)
#9176 of 9204 Re: civic LX ... fog light [canlfc] by isellhondas Nov 08, 2009 (12:52 pm)
Replying to: canlfc (Nov 07, 2009 6:11 pm) They are doing a zero profit deal if they sell that 2010 for 17,000 and they have no control over sales tax and license fees. You must live in an area with a VERY low sales tax rate. It's 9.8 % here on cars.   Installing fog lights isn't an easy job. There are probably a couple of hours of labor involved and most shops are at 100.00/hr or even more.   I'm no fan of window tinting and it is rarely done in our area so I have no idea. I do know the quality can really vary.

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