Sign In Join 

Honda Civic Prices Paid and Buying Experience

9210 messages,  Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 3:25 PM

You are in the Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum. Your Hosts are car_man & kyfdx

What is this discussion about? Honda Civic CRX, Honda Civic, Honda Civic del Sol, Coupe, Hatchback, Sedan


Messages Page 912 of 922
1
...
909
910
911
912
913
914
915
...
922
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#9102 of 9210
Re: 2010 Honda Civic LX-S Sedan AUTO [tudiu] by jogousa
Oct 05, 2009 (6:00 pm)
Reply

Replying to: tudiu (Oct 05, 2009 5:37 pm)

It's a good deal! In average you shouldn't be paying more than 200 to 400 over the invoice.Generally, most dealers don't make money on new cars. The backbone of any dealership is the used car lot - that is where most money is made.
#9103 of 9210
Re: Exactly why... [isellhondas] by jogousa
Oct 05, 2009 (6:13 pm)
Reply

Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 05, 2009 3:10 pm)

"I am surprised you would ask him what they gave him for it."
 
Hmmm - why are you surprised?
 
As a matter of fact, there was a service contract that could have been transferred to the new owner and that required former owner to sign a specific form off.
How else would one get the previous owner sign off that contract unless name and address is known? The transfer form indicated both names and addresses... no surprise there! The selling dealer did not want to handle the transfer and disclosed the required information - no privacy violation here, in my opinion...
#9104 of 9210
2009 LX by justin082005
Oct 05, 2009 (9:36 pm)
Reply
So, what would one recommend now for the 2009 LX auto? I read through a bunch on pages but being that the 2010s are out and the one dealership I am looking at has 38 of them listed online in their inventory, and they seem like they want to get them out of there just trying to come up with a decent OTD price (DC area)
#9105 of 9210
2009 LX Auto by jogousa
Oct 06, 2009 (3:49 am)
Reply
You have to do the homework. There are too many variables (color, installed options, location/region, etc). to say what to pay for a car. If there are still 2009 left and 2010s are out there already, you could get a good deal on 2009. Dealers don't want cars for too long sitting on their lots as it costs them money. End of the month or end of the year are good times to shop for a new car. Dealers and sales persons try to get sales on the board.
 
If you are trading in your used car, pay attention to the price of the new car. Don't bring it up before you have agreed on the price of the new car. Too many people are attached to their old cars and the value thereof.
 
You have to make the trip to the dealer at least twice. Once you decide on the car that you want, you have to see, what options are installed. Get the VIN number and do your homework. Look at the sticker to see, what options are installed.
 
With used ones, you can decipher the VIN number, if the dealer doesn't know what option were originally installed. Also, get the CarFax to see if the car is clean - some dealers will provide CarFax for you free of charge. Generally speaking, the dealer pays appx $ 2000 below wholesale (Blue Book or NADA) to the person who trades the car in. So you know what room you have for negotiation. You can look in BlueBook or NADA at any bookstore, without even purchasing one. Some dealers let you look in those books - that is a good sign of an honest dealership.
 
Then, using Edmunds charts, see what the dealer's invoice is and shoot for $ 200 over invoice. Also see "what others are paying" on the same website.
#9106 of 9210
Re: 2009 LX Auto [jogousa] by isellhondas
Oct 06, 2009 (5:20 am)
Reply

Replying to: jogousa (Oct 06, 2009 3:49 am)

Where do you get some of this stuff?
 
A VIN number won't tell you what options may have been installed.
 
" Generally speaking the dealer pays 2000.00 below wholesale to the person who trades the car in"
 
??????
#9107 of 9210
Re: 2009 LX Auto [isellhondas] by jogousa
Oct 06, 2009 (5:26 am)
Reply

Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 06, 2009 5:20 am)

Well, I don't know where you sell Hondas but I have been in the car biz since 1969, first in NYC then in So. California (I still have my wholesale and salesman's certificate from there). Started at Vasek Polak Porsche/BMW/Audi/VW/Saab back in 1969 in Hermosa Beach, Calif. So where do I get this stuff? From my experience all these years, my friend... where do you get yours?
 
VIN tells you when and where the car was made or assembled, what type of body it is and some other data, depending on manufacturer - true, not all the options, but some, depending on manufacturer. You can also track down who and where the car was originally sold, if you know how.
 
Do I feel some resentments from you that I am giving away some trade secrets here? A well informed buyer is a goal here. Don't see anything wrong with that!
#9108 of 9210
Re: 2009 LX Auto [jogousa] by tayl0rd
Oct 06, 2009 (5:56 am)
Reply

Replying to: jogousa (Oct 06, 2009 5:26 am)

Agreed. A VIN will indeed tell you most everything about a car; however, it covers mainly the mechanics of the vehicle. For GM vehicles, there's a sticker in the glove box with a list of codes on it. Those codes tell all the options that came w/ the car from the exterior color to the type sound system to whether or not it has fold down rear seats.
 
But any dealership of that make of car can punch in the VIN code and pull up everything about that car.
#9109 of 9210
VIN by jogousa
Oct 06, 2009 (6:18 am)
Reply
taylOrd - correct! But, sometimes, if Honda dealer is selling say used Toyota and they do not have the Toyota franchise, they may not get that info that readily.
And, as you've said, each manufacturer has it's own way and place where to display the options - unfortunately that is not an universal rule.
#9110 of 9210
Re: 2009 LX Auto [jogousa] by isellhondas
Oct 06, 2009 (6:46 am)
Reply

Replying to: jogousa (Oct 06, 2009 5:26 am)

I'm in Washington State now.
 
Moved here from Rancho Palos Verdes. Grew up in San Pedro.
 
Met Vasek a couple of times when I was in the tool business.
 
Used to body surf at Hermosa. Ave I.
 
Managed the Sears Auto Center at Del Amo.
 
You said the VIN number tells you which options the car has and this isn't true with dealer installed options.
 
No resentment. Not at all but when you said a dealer takes in trades for 2000.00 below wholesale I have to question you.
 
With Hondas it isn't uncommon for us to pay well above wholesale book to get a nice one.
 
People tend to believe what they read in these forums!
#9111 of 9210
Re: 2009 LX Auto [isellhondas] by jogousa
Oct 06, 2009 (6:59 am)
Reply

Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 06, 2009 6:46 am)

Aaah...my neighbor, I suspect!
 
I lived in Rolling Hills and knew Vasek Polak personally (I looked at his house from my house for many years)...He died while his private ambulance plane was descending at Calgary, AB - Canada.The U.S. doctors would not let him recover in Stuttgart hospital doubting German medical care. So much for this country's medical health care! But that is another story.
 
And yes, $ 2000 below wholesale is/was and should be any dealer's goal! Case and point here, the previous owner of the Honda that I bought from Toyota dealer confirmed that he got 2000 below wholesale.
 
VIN - yes, you are right - the dealer's options are not there. But, these days (depending on market) there are not that many options that dealer would install. High demand cars just move "as is" as they arrive from the port, distributor or similar. Pin striping, under coating or floor mats - maybe - those will not show on VIN.

Messages Page 912 of 922
1
...
909
910
911
912
913
914
915
...
922
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement