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Honda Civic CRX, Honda Civic, Honda Civic del Sol, Coupe, Hatchback, Sedan
#8241 of 10535 Re: 2009 Honda Civic EX-L w/ NAV & w/o NAV [skyspace]
Apr 04, 2009 (10:10 pm)
$25K OTD price for civic EX-L with navigation seems way too high. Its like dealer selling you the car at max retail price & some! The MSRP for 2009 civic EX-L with Navigation is $21,305 and invoice is $19,616 plus destination $670, TTL etc. And if you search the forum here you'll find that people are getting $2000 to $3000 off the MSRP with 20 to 21K OTD because there are not many shoppers in the market for civic's high end model considering you can get an accord LX for $20K OTD. Good luck
#8242 of 10535 Re: Not sure if it matters [dhightower]
Apr 04, 2009 (10:21 pm)
Thats a very nice letter. Thanks dhightower for posting it here for all and congrats on your new civic. I agree the Honda Cars of McKinney uses the age old dealer gimmicks of bait and switch. Several years ago I helped a friend buy a civic and McKinney Honda would not talk price to us without a $500 deposit, then they changed the terms of the deal when actually got to the dealership. I hear McDavid Honda in Irving is worse, not sure if you contacted them and what was your experience with them. Anyway, congrats on the new civic.
#8243 of 10535 Re: 2009 Honda Civic EX-L w/ NAV & w/o NAV [crazyfly]
Apr 05, 2009 (1:14 am)
Oh man, I didn't realize my offer was so bad. I say this because the link below shows a person asking for a 2009 Honda Civic EXL w/o NAV for 21.8k. Of course my current offer w/o NAV is 23k so it's higher, but I read others comment that his deal is good, so I thought mine was at least OK. Plus I asked around and dealers typically say the built-in GPS is about 2k on top, so that's why I thought the 25K = 23K + 2K was reasonable.
But anyways, I didn't come across any posting for ppl getting the 2009 Civics EX-L w/ Nav for 20k or 21k. If you have come across any posting on that, can you please let me know?
#8244 of 10535 Re: 2009 Honda Civic EX-L w/ NAV & w/o NAV [skyspace]
Apr 05, 2009 (4:23 am)
I just wanted to give you my info. I am located in Maryland (6% sales tax) and I purchased the 2009 Honda Civic EX-L with Navi Automatic Sedan on Feb 19, 2009. This price including the destination charge was $20677. My OTD price was $22,245. I financed about 10K with Honda (2.9%). My price included some appearance package that put on all their cars at the dealership I purchased from (mudflaps, door edge guards and wheel locks).
I am not sure anymore this is a good deal because I saw somebody posting recently that they were getting quotes $3000 below invoice on the EX-L's.... So maybe someone else will respond who has bought more recently with updated pricing info.
Anyway, hope that helps you!
#8245 of 10535 Re: 2009 Honda Civic EX-L w/ NAV & w/o NAV [tjchin]
Apr 05, 2009 (8:35 am)
I paid $20200 OTD for EX-L auto (w/o NAV) in IL. The selling price was about $18630. No extras on the car.
#8246 of 10535 Re: 2009 Honda Civic EX-L w/ NAV & w/o NAV [rohibatta]
Apr 05, 2009 (9:07 am)
Rohibatta, can you tell me what dealership you got the deal from?
#8247 of 10535 Re: 2009 Honda Civic EX-L w/ NAV & w/o NAV [newcarnewb]
Apr 05, 2009 (9:36 am)
I cannot recommend Brian Bemis, the dealer I used in DeKalb since my buying experience was bad. But Valley Honda was offering the same deal.
#8248 of 10535 Lowest Price for Civic EX (in Massachusetts)
Apr 05, 2009 (9:58 am)
You said you bought a 2009 EX with AT for under $17K. Would you mind saying where? Has anyone else been able to buy a ("basic") EX for about $17K, including destination BUT NOT including state stuff such as tax, license fees, etc.
I'm especially interested in Massachusetts.
#8249 of 10535 Re: Not sure if it matters [crazyfly]
Apr 05, 2009 (10:45 am)
Your welcome. It was your reply with the summary of recent purchases that helped me create it. I did a Honda dealer search on cars.com and then did a copy / paste on the dealer pop up area. In about 10 minutes I had emailed 10 dealers in the Dallas /Fort Worth area. Within 5 minutes I started getting replies and calls. I did get a question from a dealer on where I got the information. My reply was "Why is that important". He quickly backed off.
After thinking about this I wanted to pass along some other things I did that seemed to work
*Do 95% of your negotiation via email, phone before going in person.
*When you are 90% there and have resolved the purchase price, delivery and options price shift to the absolute final OTD price. - this will eliminate last minute surprises that some dealers hide.
*Get your poker face on - Don't ever look happy / excited and coach other people with you do the same thing. - They want to get your emotions involved.
*Don't think their questions are just conversation. They are trained to ask everything for a reason to promote them closing or getting a better deal for the dealer. Think carefully before replying or just don't reply.
*Ask them for a few minutes to talk with others (over the phone or sitting with you) - This seemed to take the salesmen off their game and allow you to work together as a team.
*If your being bullied, being played (bad cop good cop / bait and switch) or asked to sign any promise before the deal is done just walk away.
In these economic times you have an unbelievable amount of leverage. Don't be afraid to use it.
#8250 of 10535 09 ex-l, 20750 otd
Apr 05, 2009 (5:42 pm)
I got the 09 EX-L for 20,750 OTD on 1/16/09. I don't know what the price of the car was since I was only concerned with the out the door price and not any random fees and charges. It was pretty easy to tell the dealers I didn't care what the "price" of the car was; this enabled us to discuss the price without worrying about individual line items.
The only buyer's remorse I'm having is wishing I paid $500 more and went with the Si!