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Honda Civic Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Current offers [IntelliShopper] by mplshondadlr
Jan 06, 2009 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: IntelliShopper (Jan 06, 2009 1:37 pm)

Actually your figure is close but off slightly. The figure is -34.0% from the previous December. However total sales from 2007 to 2008 are down just 6.7%. In fact the numbers are as follows:
 
"Honda Division's 2008 annual sales of 1,284,261 decreased 6.7 percent compared to 2007. Honda Division's December monthly sales of 75,405 represent a decrease of 34.0 percent compared to 2007. Annual total car sales of 794,421 for the Honda Division increased 1.0 percent and set a record for the fourth consecutive year. The division's truck sales decreased by 16.9 percent to 489,840." emphasis added
 
source: http://www.hondanews.com/categories/1097/releases/4898
 
So my guess is with annual sales down less then 10% there is no reason for Honda to rush out and change the way they have been conducting retail business. They have already addressed the stacking inventory by reducing production across the board - some models as much as 40% from last year. Really what Honda is going to do is scale back production this year and reduce the number of vehicles on dealers lots. It may take 60 - 90 days but this spring I would expect dealers again to almost run out of some of the more popular models Honda offers.
 
Once this happens, it will then become a sellers market
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Re: Current offers [mplshondadlr] by backy
Jan 06, 2009 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: mplshondadlr (Jan 06, 2009 3:48 pm)

If all other major car makers follow suit, resulting in an overall shortage of new cars, and also if car buyers don't continue flocking to used cars as they have been of late, yes, that could become more of a seller's market. But I wouldn't bet the farm on it if I were you.
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Re: Current offers [mplshondadlr] by IntelliShopper
Jan 06, 2009 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: mplshondadlr (Jan 06, 2009 3:48 pm)

BusinessWeek quotes Honda Motor Co. as saying that U.S. sales plunged 35%, while sales of Honda Civics fell 36% year-over-year. These numbers are from yesterday - http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D95H6GBG0.htm.
 
I'm pulling for Honda and Toyota. They make good cars. I am also saying, however, that reducing or eliminating the rebates at this time is a bad move. We'll buy when the price lowers and that's how you'll reduce your overstock. Lots are packed with '08s and '09s, and there's less than a half a year left until the '10s arrive. Since the banks are keeping tight with the financing loans (not a problem for me with my cash in hand), lower prices are the solution to reducing supply. Bear out this economy and then a sellers' market will return. Layoffs at the plants are becoming public now.
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Re: Civic LX automatic [kyfdx] by mikefm58
Jan 06, 2009 (5:37 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 06, 2009 1:02 pm)

Yep, I could see that happen in the northern states that use salt on the roads in the winter.
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Alloy wheels by jimb519
Jan 06, 2009 (6:12 pm)
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Thanks to all who corrected me on the alloy wheel issue. Corrosion is the issue and is not limited to the Honda alloy wheels but to others as well. They do indeed look great but I did not want to take the chance this time around. This forum has been great for all those looking to buy. Great idea by billyriz post to ask for some add ons. My dealer did not hesitate for the splash guards and all season mats.
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Leasing offers up by tupuc
Jan 06, 2009 (8:11 pm)
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The leasing offers are up on Honda's website, still waiting for the financing ones,
 
I'm impatiently waiting for those since even though I have already given a 500 dlls deposit in Dec and kinda locked in w/the local honda, my car will arrive until Feb and therefore I'll be able to take advantage of the new 2009 offers.
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Re: Civic LX automatic [jimb519] by sinsd
Jan 06, 2009 (9:16 pm)
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Replying to: jimb519 (Jan 06, 2009 3:52 am)

GOOD color choice; Urban Titanium was my 1st and only choice. I don't care about the trunk lid spoiler on the LX-S, but the black interior, which is the same as the SI, is plenty fine; the wheels are a great deal and I absolutely love the leather-wrapped steering wheel. Very happy with my new 09
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Re: Is this a good deal? [WHLover] by nvreader
Jan 07, 2009 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: WHLover (Jan 05, 2009 10:47 pm)

Why would you ask now,only to beat yourself up after the fact?. Enjoy your new car.
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Re: Current offers [mplshondadlr] by janice47
Jan 07, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: mplshondadlr (Jan 06, 2009 3:48 pm)

Yes, overall sales are down only 10% when compared to an annual basis, but keep in mind that sales didn't start tanking until closer to the end of the year. Honda was doing great this summer - the Civic was the best selling car in the US at one point.
 
Let's be honest, Honda is not gonna be looking at "overall annual" sales when coming up with rebates. They are more concerned about recent sales going back 2-3 months. Inventory is piling up everywhere. Executives can't just say "oh, no worries, our sales are only down 10% annually".
 
The fact is, sales are down over 30% when compared to the same period last year. I'm counting on the fact there will be better deals in the next few months.
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Re: Current offers [janice47] by mplshondadlr
Jan 07, 2009 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: janice47 (Jan 07, 2009 11:46 am)

"I'm counting on the fact there will be better deals in the next few months."
 
Remember, that is exactly what people were saying in November and December and look what happened. Honda pulled back ALL of the low APR options with little additional dealer support.
 
They (Honda) aren't as stressed about the current market like other manufactures. They have positioned themselves to have fewer cars produced for 2009 while still selling as many or more cars then they did in 2008.
 
Honda builds good cars and have never had to apologize for their prices. Unlike every other brand, they have never offered a consumer rebate or zero percent financing - and they never will.

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