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Don't settle! by bluetoothless
Aug 10, 2008 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: mplshondadlr (Aug 06, 2008 6:02 am)

My suggestion to all. Spend a little bit of money and invest in the new car buying program at Consumer Reports. It will show you how much the dealer truly paid and what your starting point in the bargaining process should be. I originally involved a broker that was recommended by two co-workers claiming only to make $500 above invoice. I called him on Consumer Reports info and he never returned my calls after that. I emailed 27 dealers from Key Largo to Orlando, FL from American Honda's website and just kept changing my zip code (just hit browser's back button). Stick to your guns because a slow dealer will call you to get rid of their 2008 inventory and give them a number you don't mind getting harassed on. I specified email only, but they still filled the mailbox on the extra cell phone number I have for kids' needs.
I got an honest offer of $22,000.00 including tax, and tag transfer for a 2008 Si Sedan M/T with summer tires. Another dealer that promised to beat any price changed their story when I showed up with email quotes. So typical. They allowed me to drive away, and I told them to hold onto their car that had been on the lot for 4 months over the $400 difference for the summer tires they gave as a reason not to match price. I was three miles into my 103 mile jaunt to the honest original dealer when the manager of the dealer I just left called me back. Don't play into their games! The $22k price was $1095.00 cheaper than the broker' s. Know your stuff before speaking to anyone in person
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Re: price for Civic LX - TX [backy] by elena250
Aug 10, 2008 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 10, 2008 8:56 am)

Yes, I would be willing to travel further to get the car but seems like the 08's are thinning out and they say the 09s will be coming in in September and that they will be 6% higher - and essentially the same car. I have looked at the Mazda - drove it, it was alright, and was originally thinking of a corolla - have always had Toyotas and love them, but they didn't seem to be much more flexible on price (perhaps just a little, but the options to put on seem trickier). Don't know much about Nissan, though I do see that they are advertising that they will be offering a discount. Haven't seen much about the Sentra. I also did consider (for a few moments) the Cobalt and Focus - but the resale is going to be very different and I'm just very leary of American manufacturers - there's a reason Honda and Toyota are so much in demand. I did talk to the dealer yesterday and he still didn't seem to budge much - perhaps could get him down to 20,000 for an LX. Do you all think it's still way out of line for Texas? He does have me worried that there won't be many of these left soon.
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Re: price for Civic LX - TX [elena250] by backy
Aug 10, 2008 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: elena250 (Aug 10, 2008 7:14 pm)

It seems you have your sights set on a Civic LX. How much you are willing to pay for it, that's up to you. Personally, I wouldn't pay $20k for a Civic LX, as there are other cars I'd rather have for that kind of money. But this is your car, and your money, so get what you want. You just happen to be going after a car that is in high demand and short supply right now. You might have better luck waiting for the end of the year, if you can wait that long.
 
Have you checked the biggest dealers in the big cities, Houston, DFW, and San Antonio? If you are in North Texas, you might also check the dealers in OK.
 
Good luck!
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Re: Don't settle! [bluetoothless] by nish_nj
Aug 10, 2008 (7:43 pm)
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Replying to: bluetoothless (Aug 10, 2008 5:38 pm)

Great Suggestions! Thanks to you.
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Re: price for Civic LX - TX [backy] by elena250
Aug 10, 2008 (9:36 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 10, 2008 7:34 pm)

thanks for the reply. A few questions - you say wait till the end of the year - do you mean September since the 09s are due out then? Also, which other cars do think are better for that kind of money? Drove the Mazda 3 - it was alright but I didn't feel as good as the Civic. I was just looking at the internet and wondering about the Ford Focus. Have generally always had toyotas and very nervous about American made cars - their MSRP is about the same, but I assume there might be more of a discount. Also Focus only seems to come in manual which I could do. By the way - do you know if Civics have stability control? Is that a drawback if not?
 
thanks again -
 
BTW I have checked in San Antonio and will try Austin - they don't seem to have very much either - plus they don't seem to want to lower the price at all - they also say they have these cars sold before they're in. Really don't know how much of this all is "hype" Also have been looking at Corollas but they are about the same as far as price and don't have as much style.
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Re: price for Civic LX - TX [elena250] by alamocity
Aug 10, 2008 (10:49 pm)
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Replying to: elena250 (Aug 10, 2008 9:36 pm)

From what I've seen in San Antonio I'd say $19,549.00 or so is the OTD on a basic LX model, which breaks out to be $18,189.00 plus TT&L.
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Re: price for Civic LX - TX [elena250] by civictory
Aug 11, 2008 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: elena250 (Aug 10, 2008 9:36 pm)

Elena250,
 
I've been watching your posts. I agree that the price you've been quoted seems very high. My wife and I bought a Civic LX in Dallas last December for around $17,500 OTD. That INCLUDED the "performance package" (mud guards, trunk tray, pin stripes, wheel locks, etc.). I wouldn't expect to get that price now, but it does provide a point of reference. As previously mentioned, you might be better off waiting until the end of the year (December). That way, you avoid the short supply of '08's and the rush on '09's.
 
Good luck!
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Re: price for Civic LX - TX [civictory] by elena250
Aug 11, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: civictory (Aug 11, 2008 5:20 am)

thanks for the reply. But it also seems that if I wait until the end of the year that I get into the 09s which supposedly are going to be 6% higher in price and therefore might still cost more in the end - even with a good deal. Guess I'm sort of stuck if I want to get the car and that this is the "going price" right now - even if I were to go to Houston or Dallas. That said, I did look at other options - but each one seems to have drawbacks. For instance, was looking at the Elantra which seemed to be a pretty good little car (though not a Civic) and then started reading about the problem they're having with the fuel pump and that is worrisome. Not sure how Honda is about recalls, etc. I've had Toyotas and feel they're very good - just got a door replaced at about 96,000 miles for free that would have cost $1500 if I had had to pay. Is Honda good about follow up on their vehicles?
 
 From what I'm reading seems like $19,500 OTD might make a good starting offer - though it is about $1500 off what they've listed on their internet price. Do I stick to that price?
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On the bubble? by ctsundbe
Aug 11, 2008 (6:10 am)
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Like other posters, I'm trying to decide between buying an '08 (probably an LX a/t) and waiting for the '09s. I'm OK with the current '08 LX package, but the '09 LX-S interests me- I like the addition of alloy wheels without having to buy a sunroof with it.
 
Seems like I could get an LX with a/t for a few hundred below MSRP, but if I wait for the '09s, I'd end up trying to buy when '09 prices are at their highest. Any thoughts?
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Re: price for Civic LX - TX [elena250] by backy
Aug 11, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: elena250 (Aug 11, 2008 5:45 am)

First 6% is a very big price increase for one year. I am doubtful the price increase on the 2009 Civic will actually be that much, because if so it is getting very close to the Accord in pricing. You heard that from a sales rep, right?
 
By the end of the year, supply of the 2009s will be good and there will be competition for the Civic from Honda's own all-new Fit. Plus there are usually year-end closeout sales at year's end--if not on the Civic than on other models.
 
Re the Elantra, keep in mind that all brands have problems. The current gen Civic has had its share of problems (read the Civic Problems discussion here to get some background). Also Honda has had its share of safety issues, e.g. the recall a few years ago of 1 million Accords for a transmission defect, and of CR-Vs because they were catching fire in owner's garages (!). At least the problem on the Elantra is being worked on by the NHTSA and Hyundai, so there should be a resolution fairly soon. Buying a Honda will not guarantee that you won't have problems down the line. Overall, the Elantra is considered a very reliable car--e.g. it gets top marks for reliability from Consumer Reports.
 
As for your question about which cars I think are better for $20k... that is really a personal question, and I probably have different buying criteria than you do. I've already mentioned other small cars that are well regarded, e.g. Mazda3i, Elantra, Corolla, Impreza, Rabbit, Jetta, and Sentra. But you might not like some of these (Impreza, Rabbit, Jetta) because they don't provide high fuel economy like the Civic. My advice is, before you plop down $20k on a car, check out all the alternatives that at least on paper fit your criteria. If you didn't like the Mazda3i, I doubt you'll like the Focus or the Cobalt for that matter. But it wouldn't hurt to drive them, if you have the time. (BTW, the Focus is available with an automatic.) For $20k or less OTD I would consider a fairly broad range of cars because I would also consider some in the mid-sized class, e.g. Optima and Sonata. Other mid-sizers such as Fusion, Milan, and 2008 Mazda6i are also available OTD for under $20k. But maybe you don't want a car that big.
 
No 2008 Civic except the Si has stability control. ESC helps keep the car on the road in extreme conditions and IMO is a very important safety feature, so I want my next car to have it. Because of its safety benefits, it will be standard on all new cars sold in the U.S. by 2012. For 2009 the EX-L is supposed to get VSA also. But probably not the LX. Some small cars that offer ESC standard are the Elantra SE, and for 2009 the Impreza (all trims), Rabbit, and Jetta. It's an option on the Corolla, Mazda3s (with the 2.3L engine), SX4 and SX Sport, and maybe a few others I'm forgetting.

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