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Honda Civic Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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What is this discussion about? Honda Civic CRX, Honda Civic, Honda Civic del Sol, Coupe, Hatchback, Sedan


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Re: Civic LX Sedan Auto [mantras] by pissy
Jan 27, 2008 (9:06 pm)
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Replying to: mantras (Jan 25, 2008 12:44 pm)

I'm in the area and also am looking at that particular car. The best price I got was $16,700, but said I would need to add protection package for $425. I don't think so. What dealer quoted you that $16485 price.
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Is this seller lying to me? by dndcollect
Jan 28, 2008 (9:57 am)
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Here is the deal. I am in the market to lease an 08 Civic LX Sedan. I have been in communication with a sales man and he offered me a 36 month lease with $500 down at $244 a month.
 
I then replied and asked him to provide me with the break down of the numbers like would be on a Regulation M form.
 
His response was instead of an email, a phone call and on the message machine he said that people just go by monthly payment, and that they just punch the numbers into the computer to get the numbers, and they really dont matter.
 
What should be my next response? For $500 down at $244 a month is not an outrage, but I need to see the money factor.
 
Im new to all this, is there a way i can find these with just the numbers he gave me?
 
So far they are:
 
Selling Price for LX Auto Sedan $16,895.
$500 Down Payment for first month and motor vehicle fee's.
36 Months
$244 a month.
 
Any help would be great, thanks.
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Re: Is this seller lying to me? [dndcollect] by vgur
Jan 28, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: dndcollect (Jan 28, 2008 9:57 am)

Don't lease
Just buy My recent offer in Chicagoland for 2008 LX Sedan Automatic $17,800 OTD
 I expect to get even better offer toward the end of the month.
I bought one of my cars Nissan AltimaGXE 2000 for $16,500 OTD on December 31,1999
I sold it (51000 miles) a few days ago for $7,600 I only invested $400 for gaskets and injector beside the periodic oil change
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Re: Is this seller lying to me? [vgur] by dndcollect
Jan 28, 2008 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: vgur (Jan 28, 2008 10:21 am)

its easy to say "dont lease". the decision to lease is not the issue here, i have researched the pro's and cons and i have decided that to lease for the next 3 years is the best move.
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Re: Is this seller lying to me? [dndcollect] by dwynne
Jan 28, 2008 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: dndcollect (Jan 28, 2008 9:57 am)

Is this seller lying to me?
 
Q: How to tell when are car salesman is lying?
A: His lips are moving! (insert rim shot here)
 
It's just a joke!
 
Seriously, the reason the dealer wants to play payments with their customers is that why the customer has no idea if they are getting the best deal or not. They figure "I can afford $244 so I will sign the papers".
 
Invoice is $16,984 including destination, so if your price invoice destination and dealer fees that is a nice price.
 
The lease deal shown on the Honda web page is for a Civic LX AT and figures out to a 63% residual with a 0.00207 MF. I don't know if your payment includes tax or not and if so what the rate is, but $244 per month (no tax) equates to a net cap cost of $18,156. If your tax is in the payment and was 6% then the net cap cost would be $17,694.
 
Any GOOD dealer I have dealt with has no problem breaking down the numbers to make the customer happy.
 
Dennis
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Re: Is this seller lying to me? [dwynne] by dndcollect
Jan 28, 2008 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Jan 28, 2008 10:27 am)

ok thanks, im going to email him now. if he hems and haws im just going to move on. there are like 10 honda dealers in my area.
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Re: Is this seller lying to me? [dndcollect] by dndcollect
Jan 28, 2008 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: dndcollect (Jan 28, 2008 10:37 am)

here are the numbers he responded with, i am trying to figure out if anything is missing and also if its a good deal:
 
 MSRP $18,395.00
Total Cap Cost $17,360.24
  Residual Value (61%) 11,220.95
Adjusted Residual Value 11,588.85
Money Factor .002070
  Motor Vehicle Fees 118.50
Down Payment 500.00
Payments: 36 X $240.06 including tax
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Re: New England dealers? [tiff_c] by vgur
Jan 28, 2008 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jan 27, 2008 2:44 pm)

OTD mean including taxes of your county
The best offers in Chicagoland Cook County so far based on this forum data is I belive $17,750 OTD ( All money you pay including taxes Dealer figure it out for you You don't care of what it is) for New 2008 Civic LX Sedan Automatic
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Re: Civic LX Sedan Auto [pissy] by vgur
Jan 28, 2008 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: pissy (Jan 27, 2008 9:06 pm)

I believe you do not need protection package
Please let us know what is your best OTD deal and what county?
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Re: Is this seller lying to me? [dndcollect] by vgur
Jan 28, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: dndcollect (Jan 28, 2008 10:24 am)

The only lease make sense if you make huge milage and can wright it off the business
Otherwise you can not convince me why should you lease
You are buying for 18000 your return in 7 years will be around 50% back $9000 for Japanese cars Figure out how much you pay for leased car in 3 years with no returns but risk and back charges in case of damage or other crap written in contract

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