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#2140 of 9208 Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [craig14] by ruking1 Oct 30, 2005 (8:23 am)
Replying to: craig14 (Oct 30, 2005 7:59 am) While I can understand how you would come to the conclusion of bait and switch, I think you have to remember that at all times ALL cars are subject to sale to the highest bidder. Good business practices would dictate that one honor or make right, the deal given either verbally or in writing.   So the up shot: hold that internet manager type's feet to the fire and get a car costing more at the "lower" price or what you say was the bait and switch price.   Year's ago, I had something similar happen to me with a new model year demonstator Toyota Landcruiser 1996 model. I made a deal for the EXACT car .   (VIN #'d to be exact, the contract was written up and signed by both sides.) Seems the car was "presold" to the point the VIN was now registered in the DMV system to a new owner.   They of course apologized profusely and offered to renegogiate for another vehicle at prevailing rates, plus a so called "discount". My impression was it was an honest mistake.   However, I had a contract, and if I had wanted to back out of it, the dealership would have gone to the mat on it. So I mentioned that my lawyer would take this "easy money case"... So I reminded them we had signed a contract for an exact NEW VIN number car. So what they did eventually wind up doing was to sell me another BRAND NEW one at the agreed upon demonstrator price. The price was thousands under invoice.
#2142 of 9208 Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [craig14] by isellhondas Oct 30, 2005 (8:41 am)
Replying to: craig14 (Oct 30, 2005 7:59 am) This may not have been "bait and swiitch", the car simply may have sold.   In the case of Civics that we can't keep in stock, that may well have been what had happened. I'm not defending that other store but what benefit would come from having a customer drive a great distance when there was no inventory?   I will always tell my customers..." I have ONE blue one and I can't hold it for you...call before you leave your house to make sure it's here.   I know I sure don't need a ticked off customer driving in for a car I don't have?   "Bait and Switch"...Switch to WHAT? I don't have Civis to switch them to! Replies to this message: ruking1 (Oct 30, 2005 9:24 am) craig14 (Oct 30, 2005 9:41 am) ruking1 (Oct 30, 2005 9:48 am) isellhondas (Oct 30, 2005 11:33 am) manueltrans1 (Oct 31, 2005 12:12 am) ruking1 (Oct 31, 2005 6:21 am)
#2143 of 9208 Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [isellhondas] by ruking1 Oct 30, 2005 (9:24 am)
Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 30, 2005 8:41 am) I would agree. Before I went to see the specific 2004 Honda Civic VP Ithat was interested, I asked how many were in inventory, color, etc, etc.
#2144 of 9208 Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [isellhondas] by craig14 Oct 30, 2005 (9:41 am)
Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 30, 2005 8:41 am) I see your point but still feel it was Bait and Switch. Just a few hours after she said they had the car I wanted and offered such a low price, I drove to the dealer to find the car. They did not have the car but they did have several others unsold including one in Silver, and one MT. I doubt that in that few hours they got an offer and sold it and the car was gone off the lot. Possible but very doubtful. Neither is what was specified. The e-mail she sent was "boilerplate" and gave very little detailed info other than the blanket statement that they had the car I requested in stock and the price was 18,310 and that was only good on cars in stock. When I spoke to her she just wanted me to come to the dealership. I feel she just wanted to get us there and offer a different car they had on the lot. It felt pretty shaky, and her behavior in e-mails and on the phone was suspect. My gut feeling was to avoid her and dealing with her was wasting my time. In the end I'm glad I did and am happy with the dealer I bought from and actually got a better deal from them (I could never get her to tell me if that included Dest so I assume it didn't). In the end I stand by my opinion. You may want to give her the benefit of the doubt, but you weren't there. When I'm about to spend close to 20 grand on a product, I want to trust the person I'm dealing with. If I have to spend a little more I'd rather buy from someone I feel is being honest, as a matter of principle I try not to reward poor behavior. Even if it costs me a few bucks. Replies to this message: ruking1 (Oct 30, 2005 9:48 am) isellhondas (Oct 30, 2005 11:33 am) manueltrans1 (Oct 31, 2005 12:12 am) ruking1 (Oct 31, 2005 6:21 am)
#2145 of 9208 Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [craig14] by ruking1 Oct 30, 2005 (9:48 am)
Replying to: craig14 (Oct 30, 2005 9:41 am) Well for sure, but as was said before it is a two way street. Probably even more so since apparently 2006 Honda Civic's seem to be short on supply.
#2146 of 9208 Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [craig14] by isellhondas Oct 30, 2005 (11:33 am)
Replying to: craig14 (Oct 30, 2005 9:41 am) You could be right in your assement of what happened. A lot of lousy stores out there.   I just wish people would follow my advise...Ask your friends, neighbors and co-workers for a REFERRAL! Heck, if you see a new Honda in the Costco parking lot, ask the owner where he/she bought it and ask if they would refer their salesperson!
#2148 of 9208 Re: Scam at Grand Honda in Elmhurst Illinois?? [manueltrans1] by alobster7 Oct 30, 2005 (1:02 pm)
Replying to: manueltrans1 (Oct 29, 2005 6:35 pm) Good post Manny. I just don't understand why every time you get behind a Saturn driver on the road they only drive 3 miles an hour.
#2149 of 9208 Re: IS THIS ILLEGAL? [manueltrans1] by alobster7 Oct 30, 2005 (1:05 pm)
Replying to: manueltrans1 (Oct 29, 2005 9:16 pm) Manny,   I wouldn't want to do it if it is "under the table." I would want the manager to also know. Even if no one else knows God still does. "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom." It would come back to haunt me if I did something wrong.   But looking at it from a "tip" standpoint may "work." I will ask around and see. The reason that I asked on this board first is I don't want any paranoid person in my area thinking that I am "pulling a fast one."   I would like to pay under invoice or around there for a red coupe in Jan. I made a huge mistake months back and told salesmen I was going to pay cash. This time I will ask to get the numbers in writing before I tell them. They want to sell you financing so if you mention cash you don't get the best deal. This is my experience thus far. But who knows? Replies to this message: mvs1 (Oct 30, 2005 3:39 pm) godeacs (Oct 30, 2005 4:15 pm) and 5 more...

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