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Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience by craig14
Oct 30, 2005 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: anonymousposts (Oct 30, 2005 3:24 am)

I've been using this forum to gather some info on buying a new Civic. Thanks to all for posting their valuable info and to the dealers who take their time to post on this forum. I think the subject matter was getting a little off topic.... so..
 
My girlfriend and I wanted to buy a new Civic Coupe (EX or LX). So I did research here and other places and we used Edmunds.com and Carsdirect.com to send out requests to the dealers in the Houston area. As expected the responses we got back were basically MSRP. Sand Dollar in the Galveston area (about 30 miles south of me) offered $300 below. Then I got a mysterious set of e-mails from the internet manager at McDavid. One said MSRP and that they had the car in stock, then a few minutes later I got a second messages saying $18,310 (EX Coupe AT) and that they had the car in stock. So I e-mailed her back and said we'd be interested. A few hours later I drove to the dealer to check their stock and they did not have the car at all. It was pure bait and switch. I spoke to the Internet Manager there and she claimed they sold the car. This was BS since I checked in person just hours after the message and the dealership was closed at the time. She seemed pretty shifty based on previous e-mails and I really didn't trust her... so I wrote off David McDavid. I will give feedback to Edmunds.com
 
Last night we drove to Clear Lake Honda, just a few miles from my house and spoke to their Internet Manager. He was very straight forward with us. We drove the coupe and we liked it. We sat down and reviewed the list of incoming cars. It seems the coupe is in much less demand than the Sedan. Just about all the sedans in their Nov allocation were already sold. Only one coupe was sold, and a few were on the lot but not in the options/color we wanted. Most of the incoming stock were EX's, only one LX. They would not have an LX coming in like we wanted until the end of Dec, and we couldn't wait that long. In the end we bought a Coupe EX, AT for $18,500 including Dest but before TTL. They also gave us $2,500 on a 9 year old VW golf which was actually a fair trade based on the research I did. I think the price of the car is fair considering the current market, and we were happy with the trade in. Clear Lake Honda also offers free loaners for all service over 2 hours and 3 free oil changes. It was the most enjoyable buying experience I've ever had. I think they were trying to sell a few more cars before the end of the month, and perhaps if we really tried harder we could have gotten them down a little. But for reasons I won't get into, we needed the car as soon as possible. In the end both parties were happy... no yelling and screaming, no threats of lawsuits... just like it should be. If I buy a Honda in the future I will go back here. If you live in the Houston Area give Clear Lake a shot. I can't post names of sales people, but look for a guy with the initials "AJ" I will never again deal with David McDavid.
 
For those looking for Coupes.. I'd say the market is weakening already and you should be able to get a price similar if not better than we did. I must say the Coupe is a nice car (as well as the sedan). I can't believe how far Civics have come. It s far superior to my first Accord. Good luck and happy car shopping
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Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [craig14] by ruking1
Oct 30, 2005 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: craig14 (Oct 30, 2005 7:59 am)

While I can understand how you would come to the conclusion of bait and switch, I think you have to remember that at all times ALL cars are subject to sale to the highest bidder. Good business practices would dictate that one honor or make right, the deal given either verbally or in writing.
 
So the up shot: hold that internet manager type's feet to the fire and get a car costing more at the "lower" price or what you say was the bait and switch price.
 
Year's ago, I had something similar happen to me with a new model year demonstator Toyota Landcruiser 1996 model. I made a deal for the EXACT car .
 
(VIN #'d to be exact, the contract was written up and signed by both sides.) Seems the car was "presold" to the point the VIN was now registered in the DMV system to a new owner.
 
They of course apologized profusely and offered to renegogiate for another vehicle at prevailing rates, plus a so called "discount". My impression was it was an honest mistake.
 
However, I had a contract, and if I had wanted to back out of it, the dealership would have gone to the mat on it. So I mentioned that my lawyer would take this "easy money case"... So I reminded them we had signed a contract for an exact NEW VIN number car. So what they did eventually wind up doing was to sell me another BRAND NEW one at the agreed upon demonstrator price. The price was thousands under invoice.
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Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [craig14] by isellhondas
Oct 30, 2005 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: craig14 (Oct 30, 2005 7:59 am)

This may not have been "bait and swiitch", the car simply may have sold.
 
In the case of Civics that we can't keep in stock, that may well have been what had happened. I'm not defending that other store but what benefit would come from having a customer drive a great distance when there was no inventory?
 
I will always tell my customers..." I have ONE blue one and I can't hold it for you...call before you leave your house to make sure it's here.
 
I know I sure don't need a ticked off customer driving in for a car I don't have?
 
"Bait and Switch"...Switch to WHAT? I don't have Civis to switch them to!
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Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [isellhondas] by ruking1
Oct 30, 2005 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 30, 2005 8:41 am)

I would agree. Before I went to see the specific 2004 Honda Civic VP Ithat was interested, I asked how many were in inventory, color, etc, etc.
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Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [isellhondas] by craig14
Oct 30, 2005 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 30, 2005 8:41 am)

I see your point but still feel it was Bait and Switch. Just a few hours after she said they had the car I wanted and offered such a low price, I drove to the dealer to find the car. They did not have the car but they did have several others unsold including one in Silver, and one MT. I doubt that in that few hours they got an offer and sold it and the car was gone off the lot. Possible but very doubtful. Neither is what was specified. The e-mail she sent was "boilerplate" and gave very little detailed info other than the blanket statement that they had the car I requested in stock and the price was 18,310 and that was only good on cars in stock. When I spoke to her she just wanted me to come to the dealership. I feel she just wanted to get us there and offer a different car they had on the lot. It felt pretty shaky, and her behavior in e-mails and on the phone was suspect. My gut feeling was to avoid her and dealing with her was wasting my time. In the end I'm glad I did and am happy with the dealer I bought from and actually got a better deal from them (I could never get her to tell me if that included Dest so I assume it didn't). In the end I stand by my opinion. You may want to give her the benefit of the doubt, but you weren't there. When I'm about to spend close to 20 grand on a product, I want to trust the person I'm dealing with. If I have to spend a little more I'd rather buy from someone I feel is being honest, as a matter of principle I try not to reward poor behavior. Even if it costs me a few bucks.
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Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [craig14] by ruking1
Oct 30, 2005 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: craig14 (Oct 30, 2005 9:41 am)

Well for sure, but as was said before it is a two way street. Probably even more so since apparently 2006 Honda Civic's seem to be short on supply.
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Re: Back on Topic - Civic Coupe EX Buying Experience [craig14] by isellhondas
Oct 30, 2005 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: craig14 (Oct 30, 2005 9:41 am)

You could be right in your assement of what happened. A lot of lousy stores out there.
 
I just wish people would follow my advise...Ask your friends, neighbors and co-workers for a REFERRAL! Heck, if you see a new Honda in the Costco parking lot, ask the owner where he/she bought it and ask if they would refer their salesperson!
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Re: Scam at Grand Honda in Elmhurst Illinois?? [manueltrans1] by alobster7
Oct 30, 2005 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: manueltrans1 (Oct 29, 2005 6:35 pm)

Good post Manny. I just don't understand why every time you get behind a Saturn driver on the road they only drive 3 miles an hour.

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