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Honda Civic CRX, Honda Civic, Honda Civic del Sol, Coupe, Hatchback, Sedan
#2125 of 10740 Civic LX 2006 or Accord LX 2005
Oct 29, 2005 (4:49 pm)
I posted this as well in the Honda Accord: prices paid. I was wondering if people that are looking more for a Civic will have a different point of view.
I have to make a decision by tomorrow. Hope someone will have some advises for me. I got the following 2 deals and I am really hesitating on making a choice:
1. 2006 Accord Coupe LX MT $16300 (destination charge included) + TTL and taxes: $4000 below MSRP, $2000 below invoice. (mud guards and winter mats included)
2. 2006 Civic LX Sedan AT $16700 (Invoice at $16375)
Well, I originally had my eyes on the coupe, and as you can see I got a very good deal (thanks from all of your posts guys). However, this dealer had about twelve 2005 accord coupe while only one accord sedan 2005 (an EX manual) letf on the lot!!!! Is there anything wrong with the coupe??? Are people shying away from them in favor of the sedan? I also saw plenty of those used coupe returned after 1-3 years when surfing online (maybe this is just an impression since I was putting my eyes on one). I am asking this question to those who owned a coupe and after the "initial falling in love story", they felt that it was really not practical and sold it. I just got married and we are planning to have kids in 2-3yrs... We have currently a 1999 Civic SE sedan as a second car.
The other car we looked at with my wife is the sedan Civic 2006 (I was able to get decent deal given that everyone get this car at MSRP). My wife would prefer the Civic... I opted for an auto as we wouldn't have been able to get an MT within a month with the color we wanted. Hard to find.
So now, my second question (maybe related to the first one) is beyond personal preference, would the resale value down the road (3yrs or 10yrs) of the accord 2005 coupe (or sedan if coupe is not really the way to go) be more than that of the Civic 2006 (given that I am paying pretty much the same price for both at this point)???
Please let me know what you think (hope someone will read that by tomorrow. The deal holds only by the end of the month)
Oct 29, 2005 (5:05 pm)
Loved the car. It was gorgeous. However, we did trade it for an Accord sedan when we found out I was pregnant. If your plan is to start a family in the next few years and you don't like to trade cars then you should go for the sedan. The coupes don't sell as well as the sedan. Nothing wrong with the coupe it's just that coupes in general are in fairly low demand.
Between the Accord and Civic sedan you should really test drive them both and see which one will work better for you. the Accord will be a bit bigger and safer while the Civic will get better gas mileage and drive sportier. Drive both and buy what YOU like. Someone's opinion on here will do you no good when you get the car home and you are the one making the payments.
#2127 of 10740 06 Civic EX
Oct 29, 2005 (5:13 pm)
Can someone please tell me if this is an ok deal. $19,110 for a 06 Civic EX but with tax, tags, and "dealer processing or any dealer installed options" the out the door price is $20,364.00. Is this ok? I've never purchased a new car so is the extra 1,200 for that stuff on average or is it a way for them to up the price?
Thank you in advance to anyone who replies.
#2128 of 10740 Re: Scam at Grand Honda in Elmhurst Illinois?? [sms92]
Oct 29, 2005 (5:47 pm)
I received a second e-mail today from Grand Honda with an additional $200.00 off if I purchase within one week from the original e-mail. Also, my quote of $16,875 for Civic LX included destination and the e-mail stated that the price was good until Monday or while supplies last. I think $16,675 would be a very good price right now on a 06 but I am going to wait unitl the end of the year when Grand will most likely be advertising Civics at invoice. If you are ready to buy I would go there and if they have some market adjustment or other excessive charges just walkout and take the e-mail quote to another dealer and see if they will match it. The only additonal charge is sales tax, title/plates and the $55.00 doc fee which I believe is capped in Illinois at that amount. My friend got Autowerks in Rockford to match their advertised price on a 2005 Accord EX V6 in August of $22,800 after they originally quoted him $500.00 over invoice.
#2129 of 10740 Re: Scam at Grand Honda in Elmhurst Illinois?? [alobster7]
Oct 29, 2005 (6:35 pm)
I owned a Saturn for 13 years, and would still be owning it had I known how hard it is to purchase a new car. I was a pleasure when I bought the car from Saturn 13 years ago. I was very particular about the color, I wanted manual transmission, but no power steering because I want to feel the road. I wanted anti-lock brakes which were new at the time to cars of Saturn's class. I wanted driver side airbags too. And I wanted the brakes to be four wheel disc, instead of front disc and rear drum. They gave me a no hassle fixed price. They did a factory order, and I got the car 'custom made.'
That was the year the Saturn was the hot car of the year, and the Saturn 'No Hackle' with sales people on a steady salary with some 'bonus for being extra nice to customers' included was the policy. They took my picture next to my car and posted it on the board. I serviced and repair my car for 13 years only at the same dealership in return.
There were many appreciative letters to Saturn from customers also posted on the board. That was an experience that I never forgot.
I did not buy a new car from Saturn this time around because the Saturn Ion had a cockeyed centered instrumental panel, placed out of the line of direct vision of the road ahead. Now I am suffering at the selling method of the Honda Motor's Dealers. I certainly hope that the sales people who rumoured that Honda is going to have a no haggle policy will come true. I also hope that they will have a 'direct made to order method' of making cars for sale, instead of having the customer to search for cars that happens to fit them all over.
The Hondas are very good cars, but Saturns have superior sales methods, but the design and reliability of their cars these years are not quite as good.
I must be an imperfect world that we live in. Why can't car companies strive to be good in everything?
Thanks to all, Manny
#2130 of 10740 Re: manualtrans1 [mikefm58]
Oct 29, 2005 (6:38 pm)
I am taking your criticism to heart.
#2131 of 10740 Re: IS THIS ILLEGAL? [alobster7]
Oct 29, 2005 (9:16 pm)
This would work only if you do it very discretely. I was told by a friend just this evening that he gave under the table $750 to the BMW salesman that gave him the good deal. It was an understanding from the very beginning since he was introduced to the salesman by a mutual friend.
If my friend had given the car dealership an extra $750, the salesman might get an extra $60, if he gets 8 percent above invoice. And it is only illegal if you get caught. Also the dealer might sanction the salesperson. But in this unfair society where the powers to be, in this case the dealers, get all the legal sanctions to protect their unfair share of the profits, the poor salespersons need a break. And the poor customers need a break too.
I do not see it as a moral issue either. Back in the days when people own slaves, it was taught to the slaves that it was immoral to run away, or steal from their owners. But it was perfectly legal and morally correct for the owners to rob the slaves of their freedom, the sweats of their labor, or even to exploit them sexually.
This is not to the same degree here. But I think that a lot of the difficulties that we the car buyers encounter is built into the system. The owners of car vending businesses hire a bunch of hungry people and ask them to prey on the customers.
If they manage to take from the customers a whole chunk of money, the owners want most of it, and then give them the leftovers. That is why there are so many desperate salespersons that resort to any means to get their money. If the customer can do anything to even the playing field, why not?
Oct 30, 2005 (3:24 am)
think we need to get back to Prices Paid for the Honda Civic.
#2133 of 10740 Re: I really [anonymousposts]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Oct 30, 2005 (3:28 am)
#2134 of 10740 Civic LX 2006 AT at $16425
Oct 30, 2005 (5:57 am)
For those close to Detroit, Honda of Bloomfield is advertising the 06 Civic LX for $50 other invoice at $16425 if bought tomorrow Monday... I never dealt with them but they seem pretty straight forward and honest...
Here is the ad: