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Replying to: sms92 (Oct 28, 2005 3:30 pm) |
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| I bought one yesterday in Atomic Blue in Boone, NC, The dealer was very nice with no pressure or gimmicks. I got it for $700 less than MSRP and he added pin stripping, rear mud guards and wheel locks at no cost (a $399 retail value dealer add on) plus he gave me $500 above the Edmunds dealer trade-in value for my car. This was the only dealer to offer above trade-in value for my car of several that I visited. All this took less than 30 min to negotiate since I had calculated what I was willing to pay ahead of time. I was also able to get 5.24% 48 month financing which is below what my bank would have charged. I had gone in the day before to test drive a coupe and told the saleman I wanted a blue sedan and he was able to get it from a near-by dealer the next day. Overall a good experience after being jerked around by another dealer (different brand of new car). | |
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Replying to: manueltrans1 (Oct 28, 2005 3:57 pm) Makes us all look bad. |
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Replying to: sms92 (Oct 28, 2005 3:30 pm) I also received the same quote this week from Grand Honda but have not followed up with them yet. We bought an 01 Civic LX there in 03/01 at invoice plus the price of mud guards and door egde guards which they conveniently had added to the price of all of their cars on the lot. The process went smoothly and even with the addons beat all other dealers at the time by $500.00.
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Replying to: only1harry (Oct 28, 2005 10:42 am) |
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How are a car salesperson's commissions structured? How much does the average car salesperson earn? Car salesmen are paid on a percentage of the profit of the sale. This percentage varies from dealership to dealership but usually runs in the 20% to 25% range. (Some dealerships use "sales teams." In this method, one salesperson will give you the test drive, do the write-up, etc. and the "team manager" will close the deal. In this case, they share the commission.) So if you buy a new car for, say, $300 over the invoice cost, the salesman may earn only a $50 to $75 commission. In addition to his commission, though, the salesman can earn bonuses that are available from both the dealership and the manufacturer for good sales performance. Usually bonuses - or "spiffs" - are offered to any salesman who sells, say, over 8 cars in a month. "Spiffs" may also be offered for meeting certain profit goals (for example, selling a car for $1,000 over the invoice cost), selling certain profit-making extras (such as paint or fabric protection, alarms, extended warranties, etc.), selling a particularily hard-to-sell vehicle, and so on. According to a recent national survey, the average commission for car salesmen is $250 per vehicle sold. The average selling price per vehicle is about $1,000 over the invoice cost. And the average number of cars sold is 8 to 10 vehicles per salesman per month. |
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Replying to: sms92 (Oct 28, 2005 3:30 pm) Do not go there until you get everything confimed in writing. I repeat. I had a similar experience with Metro Honda of Route 22, New Jersey. The Internet Manager gave me a qote of circa $300 above invoice for a Civic 06 EX MT with Navi, or $1900. That is an unbelievable price. This was verbal. He would not confirm it over the Internet by putting it down in writing. I repeatedly asked him and no answers. He just told me to come in. I called him again and again until I pinned him down. I told him that I would only come in if he answers affirmatively and attach the answer to my e mail that he will order the vehicle for me, and that he will take my deposit and agree to that in writing. That the ordered vehicle is to be given to me when it arrives, and not to the highest bidder that he happens to find along the way. That he would not purposely keep me waiting for a certain period of time, that he would not jack up the price in between and play games. I also want him to confim that the price he quoted on the telephone, $1900 with destination fee included but not tax and license fees is correct, that I would not be forced to finance the car through him or purchase any other services or products through him in the future. He said that he was not playing games and just waiting for me to come in. When I pressed him to answer me in writing again, ultimately he said that the price he offered me has expired, now he needs MSRP for a factory order, because he had no longer have the car. He just sold it, or so he said. So I thanked him for his honesty and not wasting my time for a trip. This is the second worst experience that I ever had with Honda Dealers. The first is the one at Paragon of Queens,NYC, who lured me to come in, lying to me that they have the car in stock. Then they worked me over with three different salesmen to get me to buy another car because they really never had the car I want in stock. Then tried to confuse me by renaming the 06 Civic EX with MT and Navi as 06 Civic EX 5 Speed with Navi, and showed me a vin number of a Civic EX with Navi and 5 Speed AUTOMATIC in their incoming cars' list. When I told them it is a five speed MANUAL that I want, they changed salesman again, got a senior and most cunning and experienced salesperson to try to take me out of the market else where, but only to deal with them. He warned me not to go to any other car dealer to order the exact car, because only they have the pull to get the car I want through an order or a swap, and asking me to pay them a premium in order to get the car. What a nightmare, and the worst part was it all happened in true life, in broad daylight, not in a dream. Thanks for listening, tell me what you think, you and all others that read this. Manny |
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Replying to: manueltrans1 (Oct 29, 2005 8:46 am) I am beginning to think that "honest car salesman" is an oxymoron. If you get something in writing they may find a loophole even still. When I got my last Civic a guy from my church met me at the dealership and negotiated the deal for me. It was awful!!! He got me a fantastic deal (NO DOUBT) but only after getting in the salesman's face and saying "I heard you tell her that over the phone!" Then he threated DECEPTIVE TRADE PRACTICE and told them that it was triple damages. Which it is! They gave me the fantastic deal on the fact that WE PROMISED NOT TO SUE. You may not know it but it is illegal to give someone a deal over the phone and not live up to it! I have test driven the 06 EX Civic and really like it but have to wait til January for red. My salesman informed me that Honda was going to get away from the haggling and get like Saturn. I told him that would be very good. |
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Has anyone here ever tried this? Go to the dealership, test drive, then offer the salesman invoice and inform him that you will give him the $300 for commission. Would that work? |
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Replying to: alobster7 (Oct 29, 2005 12:33 pm) Amazing... |
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