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Replying to: mendota99 (Oct 12, 2005 7:23 pm)  , to me it would be a toss up between the (Civic) Accord, TDI. The TDI really runs like a mountain goat through the Rockies. On one trip I have run from Moab Ut, down to Las Vegas NV and have gotten 48 mpg!!?? I am directly comparing it to a 2001 Corvette Z06, that I have also had the pleasure of running through the Rocky's I have not run the Civic through the Rocky's.However being a gasser, I am sure altitude will rob some significant power from the Civic. But have done long distance runs of 750 miles in a day, Santa Barbara to San Jose CA and return in a day and a 1500 mile R/T from San Jose, to Portland Oregon and return. So unless you are running at altitude, the Civic is quite civil at highway speeds. The real secret is it does not take much hp to cruise at 65-85 mph. So 85-90 mph yields app 37 mpg. So if you wish better than that, a leisurely 65 will probably push that mpg figure closer to 41 mpg. This is with an automatic transmission to boot?!!!
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Replying to: penfan (Oct 12, 2005 6:21 pm) Salespeople will say ANYTHING to make a sale. 90% of them are fairly ignorant of the product they're selling and are generally not the sharpest tools in the shed overall. There are a few intelligent ones out there with great product knowledge, but they're few and far between. I've often told them things they didn't know about the car they were trying to sell. Honda would not price a car at a loss nor would the engineer a car past their target price. They're pros at this. Glad you enjoy your car so much. I love the excitement of a new car...makes me feel like a kid at Christmas. Enjoy! |
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Replying to: penfan (Oct 12, 2005 6:21 pm) Congrats on your new purchase? Post pictures so we all can envy you! Good luck!
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I just bought an EX Auto Sedan with Navi -- Galaxy Gray. I paid MSRP for the car. I asked for $200 off and the dealer would have let me walk out with no sale. If you want a Sedan with Navi, depending on your color, you might be waiting a few months. White and Shoreline Mist will not start coming off the line until November. I live in the Philadelphia Area.
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| My car is being made this week and will be here first or second week in November. | |
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Replying to: imtheish (Oct 12, 2005 6:05 pm) ??? |
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Replying to: penfan (Oct 12, 2005 6:21 pm) Of course Honda is making money on Civics! |
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Replying to: mam262 (Oct 13, 2005 4:38 am) |
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The tone of some of these messages seems to indicate a fundamental misunderstanding of how the free market works. Supply.....demand.... In regards to supply, you REALLY need to get a grip. The car has been out, what, less than a month? The Ohio plant just got rolling with the new Civic - many cars are still coming from Japan. It may be weeks or months before every dealer has something like the kind of Civic inventory that makes the local market balance. In the meantime, you get the anomalies indicated in this forum: some dealers have the car you want, and some don't, and some have more than enough, and some [many] don't. If you REALLY have to have this car right now, then it costs what it costs. Perhaps American Honda underestimated how long it would take to really fill the pipeline, but more likely, underestimated how much more popular this car would be at launch the the previous-gen Civic - the new one is a better car, with all of the safety features standard, and at a time when the market is hot for anything that gets decent fuel consumption. In any case, the launch went forward, and it will be some time before the dealer body gets all the cars it can sell. For myself, what strikes me about the new Civic, without having driven one yet, is what a raging value it can be if you exercise some restraint and common sense. I expect an LX automatic sedan will be a $16.5-$16.8k item before the end of the year. It would get, in my hands, an honest 35 mpg or more in daily use, and 40+ on long trips. A Prius, with admittedly more room and the usefulness of the hatch, would run an minimum of $23-$24k, less about $3k for the tax credit after Jan 1. The difference in fuel consumption in my kind of use would never make up that difference, and the Civic will be a commodity car by the time I go shopping early next year. The new transmission and extra refinement of the new car seem like real deal-makers. If price is paramount, you really have to exercise some patience. If you have to have it now, then local market conditions prevail, as always. If Isell can't get enough cars in Seattle [with most of the current inventory coming from Japan] you can bet it's going to be awhile before things settle down. In the meantime, complaining about prices is .... well .... silly. |
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What some people don't seem to understand is the fact that Honda prices their cars very fairly. They don't pad the MSRP's and a new Civic at MSRP is a great value! Seriously, if a person is really going to "feel like a fool", they shouldn't buy the car!
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