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Honda Civic CRX, Honda Civic, Honda Civic del Sol, Coupe, Hatchback, Sedan
#10058 of 10534 Re: 2012? [kyfdx]
May 31, 2011 (12:09 pm)
Yep, they're allowed to release it the prior year -- most car companies will wait til late summer or fall to release the next year's model (to avoid pissing off current year buyers since their cars are alrdy outdated) but Honda decided to release it earlier in the spring to try and compete with Hyundai since they redesigned the 2011 Elantra and released it during winter (2011 Civic design is alrdy 6 yrs old)
#10059 of 10534 Re: press request [isellhondas]
May 31, 2011 (4:31 pm)
Just have to interject a comment here - in my immediate and extended family (including myself), there are 7 2007-2009 Civics, and 4 had to have the engine block replaced - not exactly a "VERY limited" problem in my view. Oh, and 2 others had the tire cupping/uneven wear problem. Some built in Ontario, some in Indiana, and one in Ohio. Sure, any car can have problems, but it seems the 8th gen had more than its fair share. Make no mistake, I'm no Honda-hater - I have a relative who's an engineer with them - but I also don't drink the kool-aid....
#10060 of 10534 Re: 2012 Civic EX-L [delmar1]
Jun 04, 2011 (9:24 pm)
I'm curious to know as well the out the door pricing for the '12 Civic Coupe EX-L w/ Nav. Thanks.
#10061 of 10534 2012 Civic EX
Jun 05, 2011 (8:34 pm)
I decided to go with the 2012 Civic EX instead of the EX-L. Couldn't find any EX-L with the current shortage in the right color combo and didn't want nav.
Sticker was $21,255. Paid $20,955 ($300 off sticker) in polished metal metallic with wheel locks and mud guards with the trade-in above blue book. Had the price structure set pretty much before I stepped into the dealership through a telephone conversation with sales. Priced paid for the Civic is below the Edmunds 'true market value' estimate of $21,073
So I am pleased with the pricing in the current environment where there are no cars around and hearing from Honda and non-Honda dealers that the pricing will soon be climbing with additional shortages in car.
#10062 of 10534 Need some advice before I buy.
Jun 05, 2011 (6:04 pm)
My friend just told me about this forum and am hoping I can get some help before I purchase a brand-new Honda Civic Sedan LX. I've been shopping for a few weeks now going to dealerships and checking up online. I finally decided to give CarWoo a try and now I am on the verge of purchasing a vehicle (need one by the end of June 12th due to personal reasons). I currently have two good offers: $18,955 on a silver LX PZEV with 12 days left to decide that is 30 miles away frm me; $18,857 on a blue LX (however not a PZEV and I do live in California) with 2 days left to decide which is 23 miles away from me. Both car's MSRP are $19,405 and Honda Civic Sedan LXs.
First off I was wondering if the 2 days left on the blue LX was really 2 days or its most likely a ploy for the dealer to get me buy it asap. Secondly I was wondering if these are good prices for these vehicles, I'll be on a really short budget once I finance this.
Third do I need to worry that the Blue LX is not PZEV?
Also does anyone know when Honda will offer their 0.9% APR agian?
I'll be waiting for your response! Thank you for taking your time to read.
Jun 07, 2011 (5:46 pm)
I am really surprised regarding the prices that I am hearing for the 2011 Civics. I started searching for a 2011 in Michigan/Ohio/Indiana/Illinois at the beginning of May. Granted I had a specific car in mind, 2011 LX coupe in either of the blues. I found only 15 cars in those four states. If I broadened the search to include silver or the polished metal, I found 45, but really wanted the blue. In Michigan there were 6 cars, so I started negotiating for one of those. I got prices ranging from $20, 900, (1795 OVER MSRP) to $17, 455 (1650 under MSRP) I drove 145 miles one way to look at that one only to find it was a "damaged in shipment, but repaired vehicle" Poorly done at that. Going back to the next on my list, I found one at $17,910 in Atomic Blue Metallic, which was being negotiated for over the internet as I arrived at the dealership. The salesman told me that since he had not taken a deposit on the car, if I wanted it, it was mine. I test drove the car and found it satisfactory. I was not going to take the car at the first offer, so I let it go and drove home. The following day I called the salesman, and made him a cash offer of $17,500 or about $400 under invoice. After much groaning and hemming and hawing, he took it, and I picked up the car that day. With Michigan's governmental "stick it to ya" fees, tax title and license, it went OTD for a touch over $19,000. I keep hearing about the cars that are being sold OTD around the country for up to $2500 less than that, so I again (I had done this before) started checking on the sale prices of similar cars in Michigan. I found no major price difference between those and what I paid. I guess my question is: is it that much more costly to buy a car in Michigan than in most other locales? Is it just our tax and fee structure? What gives? Should I join the parade and move?
Jun 12, 2011 (5:43 pm)
I shopped around for a week or two at a few dealers in MA. The MSRP sticker prices here are 19405 (18655 plus 750 destination charge). One dealer quoted me 18905 but I think they would have gone lower. I was clear with them that i was not yet ready to buy.
I went to another place (Honda Gallery in Reading) and they were surprisingly shady and aggressive. They knew I was not ready to buy so they quoted me sticker price and told me demand was so high and supply was so low that I would not have any luck finding anything below MSRP. I did the walk around with them and they covered all the useless add ons - window etching (they use a sticker on the inside hood), extended warranty, service package using synthetic oil). He told me you need to use synthetic oil in the new 2012 civic to insure gas mileage and that once you use it you cannot change. I really did not like the Honda Gallery. They seemed very shady.
Once i had my financing5 lined up I finally got serious and went in to another dealership (Commonwealth)and got a 2012 Civic LX(silver) for $18200, ($265 over invoice and $1030 under Edmunds True market value). I did a trade for my old car and ended up getting $300 under KBB. Honestly, i was surprised i was that close, the AC is broke and the car is rusting out on the top of the windshield to the point where it was becoming unsafe. I feel like it was a pretty good deal.
One thing I ran into during the paperwork was that I was a little unprepared for how aggressive the finance manager was. I had bought my last 4 cars at a dealership that had closed down and their finance guy was pretty mellow. This guy was super aggressive. I had financing through my credit union but after i did the deal i let them look to see if they could get a better rate. They came up with a slightly better rate but i ended up sticking with the credit union, i do all my banking there and the .15% rate difference was not a big deal. I had not thought about an extended warranty so i told him i would think about it and let him know the next day, it was 3rd party - $881. He said, "whats to think about?, its a no brainer, these cars are good but the electronics are very sophisticated, one problem and you could be out $2000. Thats why 90% of our customers get the extended warranty." After a little research I found out that 3rd party warranties are crap and that the smartest thing to do is buy a Honda Care extended warranty and that you don't need to buy it right away. It had been about 6 years since i bought a car so I felt a bit rusty on this stuff... I found a Hondacare extended warranty from Hyannis Honda for $540 so i told Commonwealth i was only interested on HondaCare and they told me they dont sell it. I'll hold off on the warranty for now, i'll probably get it if i decide to keep the car past 36k miles.
#10065 of 10534 Re: 2012 Civic EX [delmar1]
Jun 16, 2011 (11:19 am)
Is 20,955 the OTD price? Thanks!
#10066 of 10534 Re: 2012 Civic EX [feq]
Jun 17, 2011 (7:39 am)
Correct....$20,955 OTD. As stated in my original post....On 6/1/11, $21,255 sticker less $300 equals $20,955. 2012 Civic EX, wheel locks, mats, mud guards, and destination charges before taxes and license.
This while car shortage. NO cars on any lots at the time in all of Southern California. NO new or used cars. Therefore the purchase price of the Civic at many dealers was at or above sticker....then they place on add-on with additional charges (for instance....the wheel locks and all at others was an additional $450....so the actual 'savings' is $750)
The big thing for me is not only the pricing of I paid for the Civic....but the trade in I received. Trade in was above Blue Book.
#10067 of 10534 2012 Honda Civic LV vs Honda Fit Sport?
Jun 21, 2011 (7:56 am)
I need some advice..... I'm single with no kids and want to buy a new Honda. I rarely have people ride in my back seat. I have looked at the 2012 Honda Civic LX and also the Honda Fit (Sport). In your opinion which is a nicer car and fun to drive. Which model has the nicer interior? And lastly, if I lease either vehicle what kind of monthly payments am I looking at?
P.S. One more thing, what is everyones favorite color for the new 2012 Civic or the Fit?