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#835 of 864 My 06 Civic EX - Engine Failure @ 48k miles! by svalmv3 Jun 04, 2008 (8:09 pm)
I cannot for the life of me remember hearing a tale of a Civic engine failing at 48,000 miles! Someone please tell me this is a bad joke and not common.   I have had my 06 Civic EX right off the showroom floor. Never had any issues with it other than normal maintenance. Last week I changed my oil which I have done on all my cars for 30+ years...not rocket science, ya know?   253 miles after the oil change, I was accelerating onto the roadway from a friends house. I was going about 9mph, 1500 to 1700 rpm when the engine let out a squeal followed by a loud bang.......silence immediately set in. The engine died right then and there at 48,787 miles! It would not even turn over. I have never had an internal component fail on a engine before, but trust me the sound of shearing metal is unlike any other. The tow truck came and took me and my car back to the dealership where I had to BEG like hell for a 1 day loaner!   Anyway, all problems centered around #3 cylinder. In the "official" report the #3 connecting rod broke right about the main bearing knocking a whole in the crankcase. I also suffered a spun bearing (#3). The engine was a total loss!! Unfortunately I had to spend $4,310 to put a new engine in the car, and pay $325 for a week and a half rental car.   Neither Honda nor the dealership offered any solutions to help me rein in costs.   Does anyone know if I have any recourse with Honda? So far their party line has been "sorry dude, your screwed!"   ANY suggestions?????   Thanks, Scott Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jun 07, 2008 1:27 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Jun 20, 2008 7:43 am)
#836 of 864 Write A letter To Corporate by sandman46 Jun 05, 2008 (3:53 am)
You obviously have a case number with Honda now, but I'd also write a letter to their headquarters and see what they can do for you...ask for some kind of goodwill gesture. I would think that they'd have paid for at least 1/2 the new engine if not more...just for the goodwill. True, you are out of warranty and you are a do it yourselfer, but they should stull "step up to the plate" and help out here. This is why I always have at least 1 oil change at the surrounding dealers so if I do have any problems down the road, I'm at least in their data banks as having done a service at their facility. Might mean diddly and it just might help if a problem ever does arise. One thing...if you don't ask...you don't get! A heartfelt letter might just do the trick. And if not, you're no worse off than you are now!   The Sandman Replies to this message: civic2086 (Jun 20, 2008 6:17 am)
#837 of 864 08 Rear Window Defogger by hickoryc Jun 05, 2008 (10:00 am)
Here in South Louisiana, we garageless individuals are accustomed to starting out each morning with the windshield wipers going and front & read defoggers on. Our Civic EX sedan is less than a week old. My wife has noted that the rear defogger is either not working, or it is barely doing its job. I have owned efficient de-foggers (Fords), and slow-pokes (Chevy). Is Honda Civic a poor performer in this category? Thanks in advance for any reply. Replies to this message: will26 (Jun 18, 2008 1:21 pm)
#838 of 864 Re: My 06 Civic EX - Engine Failure @ 48k miles! [svalmv3] by nvbanker Jun 07, 2008 (1:27 pm)
Replying to: svalmv3 (Jun 04, 2008 8:09 pm) Even to near-perfect Honda and Toyota, crap happens. They are machines, it's amazing they work at all, let alone perfectly in every instance. While I'd be hopping mad myself - I doubt you'll get a lot of help from Honda, sadly....
#839 of 864 1998 Civic EX - Is there a timing belt or chain? by kominsky Jun 13, 2008 (8:53 am)
I'm helping shop for a car for my 16yo daughter. I came across a '98 Civic EX with about 80K miles at a reasonable price. I went to Edmunds online maintenance schedule and can't find any sign of timing belt replacement. Does this car have a chain?   Thanks! Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jun 15, 2008 9:16 am) kominsky (Jun 18, 2008 6:45 am)
#840 of 864 Re: 1998 Civic EX - Is there a timing belt or chain? [kominsky] by nvbanker Jun 15, 2008 (9:16 am)
Replying to: kominsky (Jun 13, 2008 8:53 am) It has a timing belt, and is just about due for a change, unless the prior owner has proof that they have already done it, plan on doing it right away. Replies to this message: kominsky (Jun 18, 2008 6:45 am)
#841 of 864 Re: 1998 Civic EX - Is there a timing belt or chain? [nvbanker] by kominsky Jun 18, 2008 (6:45 am)
Replying to: nvbanker (Jun 15, 2008 9:16 am) Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately, right now fuel-efficient, reasonably priced cars aren't staying on the market very long and I missed this one. Hopefully I can take this knowledge and be a little quicker on the next one that pops up.
#842 of 864 Re: 08 Rear Window Defogger [hickoryc] by will26 Jun 18, 2008 (1:21 pm)
Replying to: hickoryc (Jun 05, 2008 10:00 am) I live in Wisconsin and the rear defrost work great on the window when it's iced up. Are you talking about that morning dew that's on the windows or do they actually get fogged up inside? The rear defrost doesn't do well when it's just the wet dewey stuff.
#843 of 864 Re: Write A letter To Corporate [sandman46] by civic2086 Jun 20, 2008 (6:17 am)
Replying to: sandman46 (Jun 05, 2008 3:53 am) Its totally unacceptable for an engine to die at 48K. If Honda doesn't give at least 50% back to you, I'd never shop Honda again. Show them a picture of your nice new Ford or Toyota and be sure to let everyone know what your Honda did for you. As for me, I have a 117K on my 2001 Civic LX and my only problem thus far has been my suspension- about $850 worth of it around 100 K miles. My dad's gm Caddy is a 1992 with 160 K miles and his only problem has been a $400 water pump. Both of our cars purr like a kitten :o).
#844 of 864 Re: My 06 Civic EX - Engine Failure @ 48k miles! [svalmv3] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jun 20, 2008 (7:43 am)
Replying to: svalmv3 (Jun 04, 2008 8:09 pm) This is really a case for "automotive forensics". The issue I think would be resolved around a factory technician coming out and examining the engine (or if you want to get really tough, having the engine examined by an engine rebuilder yourself for possible legal action) and determining if the cause was oil starvation or if it was metallurgical failure.   Since you changed your own oil, the burden would be on you to prove that the engine didn't run out of oil somehow. Even if say the seal on the oil filter was defective, which isn't your fault, the engine blowing up is still not Honda's fault.   On the other hand, if the engine shows no signs of oil starvation whatsoever, that is suspicious in terms of a structural failure.   If the dealer had changed your oil, or even if Jiffy Lube did it, this whole story might have had another outcome.   Can a Honda engine blow up all by itself at 48,000 miles? Sure. So can a Ferrari or Rolls Royce or a Lexus. Even at 10,000 miles. Even at 600 miles. Sometimes they aren't put together correctly.

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