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Mazda Protege5, Wagon
May 14, 2005 (7:02 am)
Two weeks left to the warranty on my 2002 P5 and I am happy to report no problems in three years. A testament to driving pleasure is the increased mileage on my P5 compared to my previous vehicle, a Toyota. I believe this reveals Mazda's strong suit: they build eminently driveable machines. Moreover, the Proteges (both sedans and wagons) are not only enjoyable but also reliable.
I scanned the P5 forum back over the last couple of years for the problem areas and it appears the overwhelming number of messages report issues with brake wear and tire wear. I'm keeping an eye on these but so far my P5 has fared well in both. Some reporters have cited clogged EGR and CEL problems detected by sensors (ABS, O2, MAF) but these appear to be rare.
It would be interesting to hear the experience of others.
#7390 of 7874 RE: Tire Update [cogs25]
May 15, 2005 (7:41 am)
Actually, this Toyo Proxes owner is very pleased with the tires. 20K miles and counting with no problems, no appreciable decline in dry performance, and much improved wet/snow performance. They're pricey, but otherwise a good choice in my view.
May 15, 2005 (1:43 pm)
isseyvoo said: very pleased ... 20K miles ... no problems ... much improved wet/snow performance ... pricey
Sounds great (except for the last part)!
Toyo Proxes TPT is one of my top three choices; the others being BFG Traction T/A and Kumho 712. Did you stay with the current size (195/50/16) or upgrade (205/50/16 ...). It appears they are slightly cheaper than the original Dunlop 5000s.
#7392 of 7874 Bridgestone Potenza RE750's
May 15, 2005 (9:48 pm)
I replaced my stock dunlops on my 2002.5 Protege5 at 20K miles with Bridgestone Potenza RE750's (upsized to 205/50/16's). I'm at almost 55K miles...and with normal 7500 mile rotation/balance, everything has been great.
traction has not decreased, noise is minimal, and treadwear is great...I've probably got more than 1/2 tread left.
I drive fairly aggressively whenever possible (in Southern California, it's usually NEVER possible)...but I do take several corners close to home and work with reckless abandon...and the tires are still holding up fine.
granted, I did get a couple of flats (replaced free of charge thanks to Discount Tire's free replacement warranty)...and the new tires were not mounted on the same axle, so I got some 'pull' for a little bit, at least until the tires wore down...
the tires are so good, I talked a couple of my coworkers into purchasing them for their own cars.
unfortunately...Bridgestone Potenza RE750's in 205/50/16 are on nationwide backorder right now.
#7393 of 7874 Re: Toyo Proxes TPT [autonomous]
May 18, 2005 (11:14 am)
Stayed with the original size. I know everyone says it's OK to upsize, but I'm one of those neurotic folks who gets nervous about any sort of alteration from the engineers' specs. at the factory!
#7394 of 7874 Tires : BF Goodrich Traction T/A
Jun 11, 2005 (4:58 am)
Yesterday I picked up a new set of BF Goodrich Traction T/A 205/50/16 87 "V" rated (240 km/h) tires from a local retailer (Canadian Tire). The retail price of C$162 was discounted by 15% to C$137 for a saving of C$97. Installation + road hazard warranty are included, balancing is an additional C$10 / tire; the wheel alignment is an additional C$70 / 4 tires.
My Dunlop 5000M 195/50/16 87 "V" still have tread left. Figuring that they could get another 5,000 km (3,000 miles) that would mean they have lasted 40,000 km. (25,000 miles).They survived 4 years in part due to my use of winter tires; as a performance tire I did not expect them to last forever, but 25,000 miles seems a bit quick. I was very pleased with their handling, low noise and appearance. Unfortunately, they do not last long, are quite pricey (I estimate about $200 more) and difficult to find and as a result difficult to comparison shop, so I decided to switch.
The BF Goodrich Traction T/A are rated for 100,000 km (60,000 miles). I expect to get much more mileage out of them; I'll be very pleased if they last six years or more, by then I may be in another car. They also have a wider footprint which should make for a better ride.
Apart from the Traction T/A the other contenders being considered were
- Toyo Proxes TPT: comparable in price to Dunlops, 100,000 km like the Traction T/A
- Kumho Ecsta 711 or 712 : great value, limited distribution network, I decided the risk of trying out a new tire company (Kumho) was not worth the savings.
Final note, when replacing your tires be careful about the size especially the aspect ratio. The "50" is the aspect ratio in the 195/50/16. Unless you buy the same size tire (195/50/16) ask your tire specialist to confirm that they will work on the Pro5. For example, I thought I could switch from 195/50/16 to 205/50/16 or 205/55/16; according to a tire expert the last combination (205/55/16) would not work because "the tire is too big by about an inch".
#7395 of 7874 Re: Tires : BF Goodrich Traction T/A [autonomous]
Jun 13, 2005 (6:26 am)
I have the Traction T/A "H" rated tires in the 205/55/16 and they work just fine. I have about 3,000 miles on them now.
#7396 of 7874 Tires : BF Goodrich Traction T/A
Jun 13, 2005 (12:08 pm)
Traction T/A "H" 205/55/16 ... work just fine ...have about 3,000 miles
Great! They're a real bargain compared to the Dunlops.
How do they compare to the Dunlops in terms of cornering and traction in the wet?
How do they sound compared to the Dunlops?
#7397 of 7874 Much better than the Dumflops.
Jun 14, 2005 (3:49 am)
We've had a set of Traction T/A V's on my wife's Protege5 for 11 months now. She's put about 14,000 miles on them and they still look and act like new, and they're very grippy tires. I'd like to buy a set for my 3 when the stock Goodyucks need replacing -- so HEY BFG, hurry up and make 'em in my size!!!
#7398 of 7874 Re: Tires : BF Goodrich Traction T/A [autonomous]
Jun 14, 2005 (6:29 am)
No complaints. Because of the less stiff sidewall design compared to the Dunlops, and the 55 series height, the hard cornering isn't quite as immediate. The 55 series provides for a much less jittery ride and the tires are exceptionally quiet. I have had no problems with wet traction as was experienced with the Dunlops.