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#6189 of 7874 OK, time for a practical tire question.
Apr 28, 2003 (7:57 am)
45-series tires are great for Miatas and race cars, but some of us have Protege5s that serve duty as work car, daycare mini-minivan and mom car. My wife's Protege5 has 20,000 miles on it and its SP Sport 5000s are getting thin; two are ready for replacement (yeah yeah yeah, we haven't rotated as often as we should have).
Does anyone have a recommendation on a decent, ECONOMICAL, maybe 55- or higher series tire that will fit the stock Protege5 alloys? We'd like something decent that doesn't break the bank.
For those of you who don't know me (and I don't know how that could be), don't get me wrong. I'm a Mazda fan. I've owned two '92 Proteges in the past and currently own a 2000 Protege ES sedan -- and we bought my wife a Protege5 in January 2002. Love the cars ... just wish Mazda would stop using such off-size tires that are so hard to find replacements for.
(And it isn't just the P5 that's got a difficult size ... the Protege does too!)
Apr 28, 2003 (9:42 am)
I'm surprised you didn't just try Tire Rack.
You could probably go up a size (aspect ratio). Just watch you stay within the rim widths recommended by the manufacturer for that size, and note that your speedo will be reading a little low with the larger diameter tires.
Yeah, not looking forward to replacing the ones on my wife's P5 when the time comes. I'm signg back up for the Dunlop SP Sport A2 on my Protege, even though they seem to wear quickly. They just grip so well on dry and wet.
Apr 28, 2003 (9:45 am)
How much would you like to spend? I would recommend the Proxes TPT, but I would not want to endanger your life by sending you to the wrong side of the river. Other than that, I couldn't find anything in 185/55R16 or 195/55R16 that I would consider recommending. If you didn't live in the ice belt, I would consider recommending the Kumho ECSTA Supra 712, but that is a summer tire. On second thought, I will say that you should take a long, hard look at the Proxes TPT in the OEM size. It has a treadwear of 400. Hopefully that means more that is does with Dunlop(AKA Good Year). The downside is you can't get them at the local Big Box.
PS- If you don't mind going to an S rated tire the BFG Radial T/A is available in 195/50R16 for $88 each from Tire Rack.
Apr 28, 2003 (11:43 am)
I'm way ahead of you. But thanks for the advice. I was mainly wondering about any recommended plus or minus sizing that TireRack's formulas may not know about, specific to the P5. Looks like I may have a few other choices after all.
Still ... why does Mazda choose such zany tire sizes???
Oh well. Zoom. My new Touring T/A VR4s will be in tomorrow; time to say goodbye to the ... wait a minute! I was the one who coined "Poortenzas" for those awful Bridgestones ... now I need to make up one for ... here we go ... "Dumflop!!!"
#6194 of 7874 Zany Tire Size
Apr 28, 2003 (3:19 pm)
In my discussions with an individual who worked in sales allocation at Toyo, it came up that in model year 2001, only 5,000 cars with the 195/50R16 tire size were sold in North America. One can assume most if not all of those were Proteges. He described that size as "European," and said that they sell about twenty times as many in that size in Japan, Europe, Australia, etc. Apparently, we just need to catch up with the rest of the world.
I think the reasons Mazda chose it are it is a relatively low profile tire, so it looks and rides sporty. At the same time, it is a little on the narrow side, so fuel economy does not suffer too much.
#6195 of 7874 Miata Stereo
Apr 29, 2003 (6:17 am)
I was at the dealer yesterday looking at the cars in the showroom and I noticed that the Miata stereo head unit looked remarkably similar to the one found in the Protege. Does anyone know if these Miata units are interchangeable with the Protege?
#6196 of 7874 Miata Stereo
Apr 29, 2003 (6:31 am)
Not sure if they are exactly interchangeable. I know a lot of people on miata.net are buying overstock 6-disc changers from the Tribute off eBay. The components have different part numbers on the various accessories brochures (except the 6 Disc changer in the Miata/Tribute). Why do you ask?
BTW- I have an 03 Protege5 & 03 Miata. It seems to me that the Miata stereo looks a little smaller, but I thought that may just be a perspective issue. The Miata stereo is nothing special either, and most Miata owners agree that the Bose system is not worth the money.
#6197 of 7874 miata stereo...
Apr 29, 2003 (9:28 am)
...doesn't have rear audio controls, so I don't think you'd want it in your P5. The modular components(CD, cassette) are interchangeable which is why Mazda is using this design across most of it's line-up.
#6198 of 7874 Miata - I know, I know off topic, but...
Apr 29, 2003 (9:51 am)
Interestingly, my Miata stereo DOES have a fade setting. If I turn fade all the way to the back, I get no sound from the speakers. What does this mean as far as rear audio controls? Could I add rear speakers (assuming I found a place to put them)?