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Mazda Protege5, Wagon
#4875 of 7874 Took the plunge
Jul 22, 2002 (6:49 am)
We bought 2002.5 Classic Black Protege5 with only moonroof and floormats this weekend. Great car so far (at 75 miles lol). Worked the deal over the internet with minimal calls with the sales guy at the dealership.
If you are in Chicago area, I recommend contacting as many dealers as you can in your area and others. I ended up buying from Muller Mazda in Highland Park, yet I live in western 'burbs. Seems like many of the dealers still don't get the whole internet thing as less than 60% returned my request for information on their inventory despite telling them that I was planning to buy in a week or less...
Oh well, their loss. If you are interested in a Protege5 in Chicago, I would recommend contacting Mike R. at Muller. Second dealer that worked hard with me was JacobsTwin. All others were average with those that didn't respond (Bill Jacobs and Rosen among others) below that.
One day, dealers will realize that 70% of car buyers use the internet for research before buying a car (according to Chicago Tribune). These numbers will start to use the internet and dealer sites/email to negotiate as well. Those dealers that work this way will profit early and sell more cars IMO.
Jul 23, 2002 (5:51 am)
yup, your missing something....hahah
We have not been able to order P5's for more than a month because the plant has more orders than they can build for the model year.... and they are not accepting any orders until the 2003 change over. The P5 plant builds for all markets, including P5's that are rebadged in other markets as Fords.... So this is a double edged sword...sales are great but we dont have enough build capacity.
#4877 of 7874 2 questions....
Jul 23, 2002 (5:59 am)
Firstly, did any of the re-fresh P5's come w/the polished alloys? I read somewhere that they didn't and am just trying to verify.
Second...I've filled up about 4 times now....and my MpG is only aroung 22mpg tops....ranging from 19 something to about 22. It is a sport auto...and I do drive somewhat hard I guess....quick starts....and fast at times. Nonetheless this seems low to me...Any thoughts? Can I expect an increase the more miles I put on?
Jul 23, 2002 (6:03 am)
The polished alloys were not part of the mid-year refresh. They've always been available as an option, so one should be able to get a mid-year refresh with the polished alloys.
As far as mileage goes, I know many people here have complained about decreased mileage. Obviously, hard driving will decrease your expected mileage, as will having an auto tranny. On the flip side, other people have had no problems meeting or exceeding the EPA estimations. On our P5, a base manual, we've been getting between 23 and 26 m.p.g. with mostly city driving. We've only got around 1600 miles on the car, so like you I'm hoping that our mileage gets better as the engine gets broken in.
#4879 of 7874 Hi tetonman- Congrats on your new Protege5...
Jul 23, 2002 (6:04 am)
and thanks for sharing the details. Good points about car buying and internet research.... We look forward to hearing more about your Protege5 experience. Happy motoring!
Hatchbacks & Wagons Boards
#4881 of 7874 If Meadeball can get in and out, you can.
Jul 23, 2002 (6:51 am)
BTW, I own a Protege sedan and am 6' tall, but have the torso of someone 6'3", so you should be OK with headroom (in fact, the P5 has more rear headroom than the sedan, due to the extended roof line). I weigh 195lb.
I think the load rating for both body types is 850lbs for passengers and cargo.
Proteges as a whole have been very reliable. Better than the new Civic and Corolla, I think.
I think Protegetech.com has a review of the sportshift auto. Basically, it takes about 1s to execute a shift command, will let you redline the engine, and won't let you do something silly like dropping a gear when already close to redline (it'll basically ignore). Expect economy close to the regular auto. For the extra $100, I'd get it for the additional fun factor and also the ability to hold a specific gear.
The ride is stiffer in the Pro than in the Civic and Corolla, but coming from a sporty sedan, that should be OK with you.
Jul 23, 2002 (7:06 am)
It's the gas. Our California gas never gets me close to EPA numbers: especially when the engine is still tight. I don't think you will see much change util 8-10k miles. If you are desperate for some good numbers, you can cross the border and fill up in Oregon. Otherwise just be satisfied that you are doing your part for clean air (*cough*).
Jul 23, 2002 (7:13 am)
Are you guys still using MTBE out there?
#4884 of 7874 Of course!
Jul 23, 2002 (7:23 am)
Clean air, dirty ground water...
All because the refineries need to pay for the investment into that equipment. It's a crazy world.