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Mazda Protege5, Wagon
Mar 06, 2002 (10:54 am)
This was posted in the "Mazda Protege5 Problems & Solutions" forum.
#68 of 70 by coznefx Mar 04, 2002 (11:09 am)
I'm going to try a few more tanks of gas. Strangely, Mazda suggests that you use the lowest octane recommended for the car, which in this case is 87. We'll see if that helps.
On the engine rattle front, I have some very reassuring news. I just got off the phone with Mazda North America and a fix is indeed on the way. By mid-March dealers should have an ECU reprogram that will solve the problem.
Is this true?
How can we find out if Mazda has sent out any fixes to the dealers, which the fix would be covered under our warranty? I know that if something was wrong and would endanger the customer, Mazda would put out a recall and it would be fixed. How do we find out about little things, or things that really dont affect the car, but should be fixed if the owners wants it fixed?
Mar 06, 2002 (12:27 pm)
Fear not, this is at most a minor annoyance, that apparently not everyone has or notices, for that matter. It does not affect the performance or safety of the vehicle. Obviously Mazda does not want to draw attention to their little error, hence the reason why this "fix" does not qualify as a recall. Frankly, my dealer did not know this problem even existed until I brought it to their attention.
Technical bulletins and the like are internal memos that the general public does not have access to. The only thing that I can suggest is if you have a problem (such as the above) that the dealer is unable to resolve, contact Mazda North America and I assure you they'll devise a remedy. Mazda is trying to aggressively re-establish their presence in North America, and they'll bend over backwards to accommodate you.
Mar 06, 2002 (7:48 pm)
Meade, I don't get what the big deal is with the valet key. I hate valet parking and avoid it anyway, but sheesh, if the guy can open and start your car, he can also drive off with it and break into the rest of it at his leisure.
Mar 06, 2002 (10:01 pm)
I think i have a rattle from the engine when i start it in the morning. Doesn't bother me one bit. I would actually be concerned about getting it fixed. The thought of anybody working on my car sends chills down my back. And how do we know that it will not affect something else, like performance and fuel economy?
On the valet front, i am surprised that anybody would let somebody else drive their car and park it.
Does anybody happen in which year did a 626 or a millenia have a black interior?
#3043 of 7874 Mustang:
Mar 06, 2002 (11:24 pm)
That's what I want to know, is what else is going to be changed when they reprogram the ECU? "Welp guv, the rattle's fixed but it cost ye 10 horsepower." As I understood, the rattle was a result of the engine block and exhaust manifold being made of different metals (one aluminum, one iron?) which heated at different rates and don't quite mate properly until they're both up to operating temps. Mine is totally gone and the engine smooths out quite a bit once it's warmed up. I just go real easy on it until then, shifts below 2800rpm.
Confidential to Meade: Hocus-Vocus? You oughta trademark that one real quick like, I can see it gaining widespread acceptance in the auto world as a term for coming out way upside-down after purchasing a new car every 6 months Hocus-Vocus Alakazam! Hey, where'd all my money go?
Mar 07, 2002 (1:03 am)
According to Mazda the problem (and I quote from the technical bulletin), is "the result of the timing between VTCS plates 'opening' and the ignition spark advance command". It's my understanding that the reprogram will simply adjust the timing during warm-up. I have no idea how the adjustment will affect the overall performance of the car...but I'll be happy to tell after I have it done.
#3045 of 7874 sunbyrne & elec3 ...
Mar 07, 2002 (4:39 am)
No, I NEVER let anyone drive my car. But that feature WAS just one more feature that was done away with. While the "valet key" stayed on a key ring at home, I did enjoy the feeling of added security I got by locking the seatbacks when I had something valuable in the trunk, or when I was Christmas shopping and had the trunk full of hundreds of dollars worth of gifts. You know, most burglars want a quick and easy entry and exit -- if they get in the car and realize they've got to wrestle with the seatbacks for a few minutes, they'll probably (or at least hopefully) move on to an easier target.
elec3 ... "Confidential to Meade?" Here on Edmunds? LOL!!!! (I did kinda like my Vocus joke though. I'm surprised he hasn't come in here and yelled at me for it.)
#3046 of 7874 Valet key..
Mar 07, 2002 (6:31 am)
I don't valet park alot either, but the big deal with me is that when I take my car in for service, I don't want to have to give them full access to the car. It's none of their business what's in my glovebox or trunk, and I would prefer to lock them up from prying eyes.
Mar 07, 2002 (6:33 am)
Yeah, I noticed your little joke. That's okay though, it's all good.
Also, the 2001 and up Proteges do have locking gloveboxes. And the rear seatbacks and trunk release lock as well. I know what you mean about wanting the ability to lock the seatbacks and trunk. I used to do that when parking downtown in Baltimore sometimes. A friend of mine (with a '97 Sentra) had his window broken in the car once, because someone watched him put his things in the trunk. They put down the back seat, and took everything out because his seatbacks did not lock.
#3048 of 7874 Of course....
Mar 07, 2002 (6:51 am)
on the P5 it doesn't really matter. (GRIN) Hopefully out of site out of mind works.