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Jeep Wagoneer, Truck
Mar 04, 2001 (11:02 am)
I sort of go along with bigm1, although I'm not quite as optimistic about the reliability. Big, sturdy, clumsy, and a gas hog, but very useful in spite of all that.
I'd consider one, but I sure wouldn't pay a lot of money for one. You can buy some very good used modern SUVs for $5K-$6K these days.
#5 of 13 Follow-up to Grand Wagoneer
Mar 04, 2001 (3:35 pm)
Thanks for the info guys. Mr. Shiftright - What modern SUV's would you specifically recommend? I really just want to get something reasonably priced and reliable. I prefer GM, such as GMC Jimmy or Chevy Blazer. But, the more recent (10 yrs. old) seem to still be in the $10,000+ price range here in snowy New England. Any suggestions? I already have plenty of restoration projects ('49 Buck 56S Sedanette, '33 Buick 56S Sport Coupe, '48 Diamond T 201) I would like to find something I could drive with as little worry as possible. Probably an impossible task. I see from your profile you restored a Morgan. I had a '59 +4 four seater and a '61 Drop head coupe in the mid 70's. They were fun, but impractical on Boston roads. Too many frost heaves! Likewise, I have had a '61 XK150 Coupe, a '66 E-type coupe and 1 '65 3.8S Saloon (unfortunately not 4 speed).I no longer am interested in English cars, (but I still keep thinking about that '48 Bentley Mk.VI slowly rusting away near my house, over by Harvard! I am nuts!) Chris
#6 of 13 Grand Wagoneer
Mar 04, 2001 (7:05 pm)
Chrisbuick. Check out www. wagonmaster.com. They sell completely restored Grand Wagoneers. They also ship everywhere.
Mar 15, 2001 (7:23 am)
My advise...Don't do it!
Those things are mechanical nightmares!
They also get HORRIBLE gas mileage!
#8 of 13 I admit I still kinda want one...
Mar 15, 2001 (11:53 am)
But I'll probably never do it. I'm surprised at the prices that wagonmaster.com place wants for the things. The last time I saw one advertised was for $2500 at a local park 'n' sell lot, and it was in pretty good shape.
Mar 15, 2001 (6:48 pm)
It's a quick ride to hell, really. It'll nickel and dime you, quarter you and dollar you--it never ends with those things. I think the best Jeeps area CJs and military myself.
#10 of 13 Thanks Guys - I Got The Message
Mar 17, 2001 (3:28 am)
Gentlemen - Thanks for your answers. Basically they confirmed my suspicions about the Wagoneer. I've just returned from Western New Hampshire, and the snow banks are 7 feet high!. Mud sesaon is going to be awful. Maybe I'll get a Jeep CJ, and leave it at the house for winter use. My '93 Astro AWD did OK in the snow (fully loaded). A lot of people up there drive old Blazers and Broncos. How are they. I want something rugged and not too fancy, for mud use, especially in the Spring. Thanks for your help. Chris
#11 of 13 Here's MY situation
Mar 21, 2002 (4:15 pm)
Last winter, I convinced my wife of how useful it would be for me to have a pickup truck as a 3rd vehicle, especially since her aged father could use it to haul his lawnmower and such (rather than lifting it into the trunk of his Crown Vic). Feeling the need to strike while the iron was hot, I found a good clean '82 F350 w/automatic and working air that was well within my budget, so I grabbed it up as a "place holder" until I could find what I really wanted.
I actually like the truck, except it A) won't seat the 4 of us, B) isn't 4WD (which admittedly I rarely need, but it would be nice to have in our spare vehicle, if for no other reason but to justify keeping it around as a bad weather vehicle), and C) gets between 8-9.5MPG (400V-8 with CA emissions and what must be a low-geared rear end).
I'm thinking of selling the truck, and buying a high-mileage &/or old SUV in the under $4k range. I like the old Grand Wagoneer's, because they've got plenty of room to haul stuff, and they're eaiser to work on/less complicated than some of the newer stuff. Basically, they meet all but my gas mileage criteria; but since I've only put 3k miles on the F350, it isn't that big a deal.
I've always liked the Grand Wagoneer, and there's a certain classic look to them. Then again, there's something to be said for the "new" Cherokee (84-01?) which really didn't change much visually throughout its lifespan. But I'd probably feel safer in the larger/heavier G.W., even if it didn't have air bags, ABS and such.
BTW - My truck has 160k miles on it, and I've probably spent $500-700 over the past year on rear end seals/brakes/etc, so I'm used to being nickel-and-dimed on stuff. I also like the "largeness" of the truck, and see the G.W. as having a similar "presence" on the road.
So if you think the G.W. is really a "quick ride to hell", what else should I be looking at that would fit my needs/wants, and price range (and still be fairly reliable)? I've seen some really cheap Isuzu Trooper IIs around, but I figure there's a reason they're so cheap.
Any guidence would be appreciated.
Mar 22, 2002 (8:57 pm)
Get an old one they are indestructible.
Hunter Thompson had to kill his 66 by riddling it with bullets and blowing it up. Saw an old about 63 one in Afghanistan in an old movie too. Govt agencies used to buy them way back when when needed for forestry, geologic and outdoors work.
Very cool choice, if you dont mind water and wind leaks.
#13 of 13 chrisbuick
Mar 23, 2002 (2:02 am)
Recent SUVs are 'how much' in the northeast? Yikes. You can buy a last generation ('95-97) Chevy Blazer or Ford Explorer 4x4 here in Chicago (where we no longer have any snow, apparently) for like $5-8k easily. JGCs are a bit more, but still not outragious. It might be worth a trip to find one outside your area.