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#1122 of 2671 engine rumours
Dec 01, 2002 (3:50 am)
Some people wish that the K1200 engine (4-banger from their motorcycles) had been used. Less torque but 130HP. Was too tall for the engine compartment so it wasn't used.
BMW has made some 4-cylinder car engines too for the 318 and 316 cars over here in the past and currently in other markets and the lower series BMWs that don't get shipped to north america also have 4-bangers. Still, with those engines available, nothing would fit in the engine bay. You must remember that Bimmer engines are designed to be mounted longitudinally for RWD, not transversely for FWD so it is quite difficult to turn them sideways, especially in the very small engine bay that sits in the MINI.
Currently there are two 'bigger' rumours. One is that they are co-developing and engine with Peugeot (PSA) and another says they are going to expand a plant they own in Coventry to produce 'the engines' locally, which might be the Pentagons or something else.
I wouldn't worry about the engine rumours for now. I'll believe them when I read the specs for the next MINI, due out in the 2007 MY (so actually coming out in 2006). Some say those PSA engines could make their way into the current MINI by 2005 MY (2004), but can they develop and build an engine in 1-2 years? I doubt it. I also doubt they want to throw more development money to drop in a new engine on a car which hasn't paid for its R&D costs yet, especially considering that they are working 7 days a week, around the clock to build the current configuration. If demand drops off sharply next year then perhaps they'll do something to shake it up.
Also remember that the engines dyno higher than advertised, 123HP for the NA Cooper. Perhaps they can just change the specs for 2004 (wouldn't be the first manufacturer to do that by FAR). Tuners have managed to squeeze another 8HP out of it for 131HP total though by the same dyno that reads 123HP so BWM might call that 123HP...
I dunno, my Cooper is fast enough for me!
Dec 01, 2002 (12:56 pm)
The new BMW engines for the Mini will not show up untill 4 or more years. Probably in the next model.
#1124 of 2671 Mini Cooper S in Snow?
Dec 02, 2002 (2:48 pm)
I placed my order for a loaded Mini Cooper S today. I live in New York City and own a Wrangler Sahara but will be replacing it with the Mini S. Does anyone have any experience with a Cooper S in the snow? I don't plan on using the Mini if we're having a snowstorm in the Northeast but I commute from NYC to DC at least once a month and was wondering if the car can travel with a few inches of snow on the ground?
Thanks for your feedback.
#1125 of 2671 MINI Cooper in snow
Dec 03, 2002 (3:58 am)
I don't have the S model but my Cooper is excellent in snow. I have 16" Dunlop WinterSport snow tires on my car and with those tires plus the ASC+T stability/traction control and braking assistance (ABS/EBD/CBC) I find it is a great car in snow and ice. The winter package of heated seats, mirrors and washer nozzles is also excellent for safety (visibility) and comfort.
The car has a ground clearance of almost 5" so unless you are driving on completely unploughed roads with fresh falls of over 6" I think you'll find the little bulldog does great in snow.
#1126 of 2671 Mini in snow
Dec 03, 2002 (1:26 pm)
Just had a few days of snow here in Chicagoland, and my Mini with stock tires performed like a champ (well, like any small FWD car).
#1127 of 2671 Seat controls on Edmunds.com's S
Dec 04, 2002 (10:07 am)
I noticed in the Nov update of the long term car complaints about the seat controls. MINI's made new levers that greatly simplify the seat controls and they're available as a free replacement from the dealer. I got a snail letter and an email several weeks ago about it. Since its not a true recall and the test cars aren't exactly 'normally' purchased to keep track of mailings and such maybe this fell through the cracks? From the average user's perspective (as well as any cars made since the update) the seats have stopped being an issue.
My dealer of course didn't bother to mention it when I went in for a service, I had to ask/remind them (even though they had a box of replacement levers that just got delivered to parts). Typical of my dealer, so maybe Long Beach did the same?
Any comments from the management?
#1128 of 2671 Re the long term test...
Dec 06, 2002 (6:19 am)
I glad you testers are enjoying the S. But I was concerned by the following Para,” With close to 10,000 on the odometer, our Mini is about 500 miles from its first scheduled maintenance service, and will have to visit the Long Beach facility soon."
The first scheduled oil change is around 10000 miles. There is a reminder on the odometer when the car should be serviced. After the first service the interval gets longer based on the car is driven. The on board computer samples data (I do not know how) and comes up with a number. My MC is asking for its first oil change at around 9,800 mi. I know that among owners that there is a debate about when to do the first oil change and I am not addressing that issue. I think it is amazing that the MINI can sample how it is being driven and ask for an oil change before or after a set point. Just another fun thing about the car.
I'm sure the Edmunds testers know more about cars than I do, but I doubt all were at the dealer briefing when the car was picked up. Some one missed the part about when to change the oil.
#1130 of 2671 Wow Very Impressive
Dec 10, 2002 (10:05 am)
That is great news - the MINI did fantastic in the offset crash test.
Dec 10, 2002 (11:44 am)
With the results!!!. Did much better than the current generation Beetle/Jetta/Golf VW cars.
The Suzuki Aerio also kicked some serious butt. Overall, new small car offerings in the market are solidly built.