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#634 of 1627 Couldn't believe the MSRP @ San Antonio Car Show by martin13 Nov 15, 2001 (11:00 pm)
Former 325i owner that got board with the bimmer after one year. Always looking for something else. Saw the MSRP today on the C230 at the car show. Couldn't believe my eyes on a car with such reliability and quality as MB. Beautiful front 3/4 but the rear takes getting used to. Interior looked somewhat "cheap" such as overhead console/lighting. The car did get a lot of interest from passer-bys.    I guess MB had to cut corners somewhere. Didn't mind the cloth interior. Never liked leather/vinyl.   May go for a test drive. Have only seen on on the road here in San Antonio area.   Hope MB isn't cheapening down now that it has a partnership w/ Jeep, and this is the first car w/ Jeep quality and workmanship. I guess time will tell.
#636 of 1627 C230 ain't no Jeep by jjpeter Nov 16, 2001 (1:14 pm)
Believe me, the C230 coupe in not in the same league as Jeep. Although Jeep is not the benchmark on the low end.... I'm not sure what you are comparing it too... I've owned the coupe for almost a month, and many who contribute to this board have had it since late summer and no one has written about quality issues. Mostly the concerns/negative comments are tire kickers who raise unsubstantiated concerns. If you have not test driven one yet, do so. The build quality is evindent from the moment you hear the car door closed with a solid thunk!   On another note, I went for the rubber floor mats today, from the dealer; $84 OTD. A perfect fit and blends in perfectly with ash cloth interior. Nice addition to the overall protection package as winter looms ahead.
#637 of 1627 Safety features... by huntzinger Nov 16, 2001 (1:44 pm)
...there is no reason for ABS, ESP, head bags, or side bags, either, to make a vehicle that is considered "safe".   Sufficient customers demanded some of these options enough times such that it was more cost effective for the manufacturer to make them standard equipment on the production line. The same thing happened with spare tires and air conditioning.   The other thing to remember is that the cost of adding Traction Control and Stability Control (by any name) is extremely low once you've invested in an ABS system, as both are almost literally 99% software code. Throwing them in allows another competitive 'checkmark' against their competitors.   FWIW, the C230 includes a "Homelink" a standard. How much do you think this is really worth? Hint: Audi bundles it with a $99 autodimming mirror and makes it a $300+ option.   -hh
#638 of 1627 I have to ask... by jjpeter Nov 16, 2001 (4:35 pm)
Huntzinger - what does FWIW mean? Thanks,,, jjpeter
#639 of 1627 FWIW by rbraver Nov 16, 2001 (5:05 pm)
For What It's Worth.
#640 of 1627 jjpeter by huntzinger Nov 17, 2001 (3:40 am)
By The Way, do you know that "BTW" stands for?
#641 of 1627 Huntzinger - by jjpeter Nov 17, 2001 (8:01 pm)
I'm glad you find my lack of knowledge of TLM's to be humorous... BTW & FWIW; have you bought your C230 yet? Or do you just hang out a these message boards because you don't have a life like me? :o
#643 of 1627 Should I buy one or not? by jakichan Nov 18, 2001 (7:03 pm)
I test drove a C Coupe last night, just a quick around the block jaunt. But I am quite taken with it. I love the look - even the rear end. Finally something has come along that looks like a Corrado!   It was fairly fun to drive. I couldn't get a manual, but it seemed to have plenty of punch. It's got about 25HP on my '97 VR6. The ride certainly wasn't too stiff (I put Neuspeed Sport springs and Bilsteins on my Jetta, so I know what a stiff ride is). The only thing that I found annoying was the instrument cluster - in all honesty I would probably prefer the regular C-Class instrumentation.   But doing on-line research, I am a bit concerned by how none of the enthusiasts and reviewers seem to like this car. I bet if I asked any of them in person, they would suggest that I would be better off spending my money on a 325 (which would cost about 3K more equipped the way I want) than this car. All the reviews rave about the handling and such. And I must admit, I am a HUGE fan of the M3 - if I could afford one I would buy it.   But here's why I'm not dying over a smaller 3-series. For one, I found the space afforded to the drive in the 3 series to be quite cramped. I am a very large guy (width, not length) and the steering wheel in the 3-series rubbed me, at least in the first model year of the E46. Secondly, I live in the SF Bay Area, and it seems like EVERYONE and their mother has a 3-series. One the one hand that could be a testament to it's handing and performance. On the other, it just feels to me like too much of a yuppie-mobile.   Also, isn't it generally a truism that MBs hold their value more than a BMW?   I suppose I am conflicted. Last time I bought a car it was simple - the Jetta VR6 was the only thing in my price range that did what I wanted. Now I've got basically two choices (maybe - I haven't sat in a 3-series recently) and my hear and gonads are telling me that the Coupe is dead sexy. Then I see it not getting rave reviews in the press and I start to wonder....   (Anyone in the Bay Area wanting to help me make up my mind is welcome to drop me a note at johnhypergeek.net

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