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#551 of 1632 When for Snows...NJ by huntzinger Nov 01, 2001 (10:00 am)
For the paranoid, you're already too late, as we've historically had bad snowstorms as early as Vet's day in October.   But in general, anytime before mid/early December is good enough...Thanksgiving Weekend is a good planning point. Its a good idea to plan to do some dry driving on the snows, because it will take them a few miles to settle in and for you to get used to how differently the car handles.   My personal SOP is that I'm starting to watch right now, and I'm playing it by ear depending on what appointments I have and what the weekend weather forecasts are showing. I'll probably see if I can get one of the cars done this Sunday (there's rain forecast for Saturday AM).   If its rainy/windy/cold, I have enough time still to wait for another weekend. The important thing is to NOT get caught doing it 10pm on a Tuesday night the day before a storm is predicted for the next day out (BTDT).   FWIW, the same "watch for good weather" rule of thumb applies for your home's Christmas lights   For taking them off, anytime after the Ides of March.   -hh
#552 of 1632 thanks for the jersey info by tommyp13 Nov 01, 2001 (10:23 am)
That's good to know. Guess I can look forward to dropping a grand in the next couple of weeks. Maybe I'll win it when I'm down at the casinos in New Orleans in a couple of days?   Brightness - I realize that. But, if you stack up all of the crap that you get in the C7 and compare it to what you'd have to pay to get the same deal (and subtracting out the price of the rims/tires - I'd assume that the other crap wouldn't be worth much - ie, stock exhaust tip, knob, steering wheel, pedals, door sills, black handles - maybe a couple of hundred total in real dollars for those) you're still doing well by ordering the c7 package. And if you want to plus size the stock 16 inchers, you're still left with them anyway, though they wouldn't be bad for winter.
#553 of 1632 c7 package by mlsphd Nov 01, 2001 (2:58 pm)
there seems to be a lot of enthusiasm for the c7 package. Besides the aesthetics, could someone enlighten me on (1) handling/performance difference of the larger tires/wheels and (2) the likely additional cost over time in replacing the performance tires vs the stock tires.
#554 of 1632 Truthfully... by mapman1138 Nov 01, 2001 (3:44 pm)
...its mostly an appearance thing. I'm sure that someone will argue with me, but the 17's will get you (maybe) slightly quicker turn-in. In exchange for this, ride will be harsher, unsprung weight will in all likelihood be higher, and it will be easier to damage your wheels, since there's less tire to absorb stuff. Oh, tires will be more expensive and will wear more quickly (in general), too. Cost will vary with what tires you buy and your driving style/environment.   FWIW: I got C7 because I like the way the 17s look, and I wanted the door handles! Plus, I knew that I'd be getting winter wheels/tires whether I got the C7 package or not. All-season tires are too much of a compromise, IMO.
#555 of 1632 Cost of ownership, tires by jjpeter Nov 01, 2001 (3:47 pm)
Guys, the stock 16" rims take 205-55/ HR16 tires. The C7 pack gives you 225/45 ZR17 tires. Go to Tire Rack and look these sizes up across the well known brands and compare replacement costs. Here is an example:   Dunlop SP Sport A2 205-55/ HR16 = $92 each Dunlop SP Sport 8080E 225/45 ZR17 = $185 each   You'll see that the C7 tires will cost quite a bit more to replace, about twice as much in the Dunlop brand. And, you'll need to do it more often because of the softer rubber compounds used... Something to consider. We went with the the stock Michelins and they handle great!
#556 of 1632 Yes... by jrct9454 Nov 01, 2001 (3:51 pm)
...I'm not especially enthusiastic about this package, especially as it applies to the wheel/tire combo. To each his own, however...
#557 of 1632 snow by c702000 Nov 01, 2001 (3:56 pm)
Glad I live in Florida...no tire problems Tom in Daytona
#558 of 1632 c7 package tires by ranchero Nov 01, 2001 (8:24 pm)
I got what I think was a pretty candid answer from the salesman when I ordered the car. I should expect about 35,000 miles from the standard 16 inch tires and about half that mileage from the performance 17 inch tires.   I was disappointed to get only about 35K miles out of original equipment Goodyear Eagles on a recent new car; yet I am advised that is about standard for the newer compound tires.   So I took the standard 16 inch tires. They should be just fine for everyday (but not aggressive) service. I like the look of the standard 16 inch wheels very much. An important issue in wheels, to this owner, is how easy are they to properly clean. With c230k, either wheel is fine in this regard. So the choice is pay more now for tires that wear out twice as fast and cost twice as much - in order to get those mono color door handles and leather shifter. Easy choice for this buyer!
#559 of 1632 NJ...tires by huntzinger Nov 02, 2001 (6:25 am)
Tommyp13,   I'm not sure how far north in NJ you are, but being that you're new to the area and looking for wheels/tires, I would be very remiss if I did not mention that up here, we have "Eurotire" on Rt 46 in Fairfield, NJ: (973) 575-0080. Their prices are good, but after years of being a satisfied customer, I no longer even think of going anywhere else: Bill Bloomfield gives straight answers, supports the local auto clubs, takes appointments and walk-ins, and even has Saturday service hours. If you call, please tell Bill I said 'Hi'.   -Hugh
#560 of 1632 Tread life by huntzinger Nov 02, 2001 (7:41 am)
Treadlife and Performance are inverse relationships. You get higher treadlife through rubber hardening additives to make a "hardball" (typically very slippery in cold winter weather, BTW), and you get more performance by running a softer compound...its the old "no free lunch" bit.   For as much as a car costs to run these days, the general difference between a 25K tire life and a 75K tire life is pretty small. For a $75 tire comparison, its on the order of a penny per mile.   Personally, I'm willing to pay that extra penny per mile. I do a lot of of city driving which really trashes tire wear, so I consider a treadlife of 2OK-25K miles to be acceptable.   -hh

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