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#51 of 1627 Prospective Buyer by cpeterson3 Apr 18, 2001 (10:49 am)
My wife and I placed a deposit with our delear back in December on a C230 and have been receiving updates regularly. On April 7th we viewed the option pricing so I would imagine all dealers have that info now. MSPR as we all know, is a closely gaurded secret right up until release of the car with MB but I'll be sure to share what I learn.   We flew to Detroit to see the car (very stripped model) and were surprised by the crowds gathered arond it but it certainly generated alot of interest. We are buying it to complement our ML and look forward to the sportiness, performance, exclusivity (it will be rare on the road) safety, reliability and most of all, it appeals visually to us.   I think MB will garner the success and hit the target markets they are looking for. We are 30, homeowning young professionals who will most likely continue to purchase thier products as we mature. Had the new C-Class been available when we purchased our 2000 ML, I think it would have been our entrance into thier product line. The industry is becoming so competitive that it is important to attract younger buyers who will develope a loyalty for the luxo makers. (ie what Saab & Subaru have) Waiting till people are 45-50 no longer can substain a production car line. These types of daring but properly placed new vechicles will go far to cement relationships and sustain long held image and brand recognition.   thanks for tolerating my thoughts.
#52 of 1627 C230 Coupe at NYC Auto Show by huntzinger Apr 19, 2001 (11:14 am)
The coupe on display this week in New York City's Auto Show is in (my assumption) the "Paprica" color.   Unfortunately, it was also behind a guardrail and on a rotating display..."hands off".
#53 of 1627 Coupe likely a worthy successor by huntzinger Apr 19, 2001 (11:21 am)
As a current Saab 900S, and former VW Sirocco owner (as well as an "almost"BMW 318ti and "almost"VW Corrado) , I see the M-B C-Coupe as potentially being a worthy successor.   Yes, all of these are hatchbacks. That's the point. When I need a truck, I'll borrow/rent one. The meantime, a hatch is usually enough. The other cars on my short list right now is probably an Audi Avant (wagon), maybe a Golf GTI.   The biggest overall problem that I see is that if we say that the appeal of a hatchback is its practicality, there is the *perception* problem in that the C-Coupe requires premium gas. And even though I know that the true cost for Octane is peanuts...around $200/year)...it nevertheless remains a niggling factor that will eat at me. Historically, this was also true of the BMW 318ti, although IMO its "gutless wonder"motor with 2 people in the car was also a major factor for why I didn't buy one.   Overall, the biggest question I have right now is from the NYC auto show's M-B representative, who told me that they apparently aren't presently offering European delivery on the C-Coupe.   -hh   (my apologies if this is a repost; the board didn't appear to be working earlier)
#54 of 1627 hh by drew_ Apr 19, 2001 (12:08 pm)
Well, it is a supercharged engine, and produces a fair amount of torque and horsepower from something only 2.3L large (or small, depending on how you look at it). Perhaps that will help...FWIW, ALL MB vehicles require premium fuel, except for the diesels, of course.   Hope to see you participating more often in here in the future! Drew Host Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket & Accessories message boards
#55 of 1627 Octane + Euro Delivery by huntzinger Apr 23, 2001 (12:35 pm)
Drew,   I'm gratified that MB is using the Kompressor so that the C230 isn't going to be as pitiful of a performer as the BMW 318ti was, particuarly on torque.   My point regarding premium gas is that its my "stingy"...er, "practicality" gene coming out, which is the same gene that appreciates hatchback designs. I know its not really a big deal, but it still feels like one.   BTW, MB answered an email inquiry I had sent them. Two good tidbits in it worth sharing:   First, the official release date is currently scheduled for July 16th, 2001 (although it can obviously still change).   Next, unlike what I reported from the NYC auto show, the C230 *WILL* reportedly be available for European Delivery, "...once the model becomes available for retail sales."   IMO, it still looks quite promising. If it test-drives well, the odds are good that you'll find me somewhere between the Romantic Road and Grindelwald, Switzerland, where there's some fabulous day-hiking in the Alps.   Of course, now if they'll only cut the profit margins on a couple of the items so that my praticality genes corner me into ordering a 'stripper', as well as cough up some details on the sport handling package (and hopefully, it won't cost ~$3K).   -hh
#56 of 1627 Release date that early? by tommyp13 Apr 30, 2001 (6:41 am)
I stopped off at a local dealer to ask about the c230. I asked, "Do you know much about the new c230?", and he said, "They don't make it anymore." And that was only the start of his attitude (one of the things that I hate about possibly buying a Benz). He finally said that he was going to training soon on the car, but he also said that it wouldn't be out until September or October. I also called another dealer who said it would be available in the Fall. Is this a case of dealers not knowing anything, or is there conflicting info out there?   It seems like a great car, but I'm not sure it's really worth $11k over a gti 1.8t.   Is there anything online about the options pricing, or would I have to go to a dealer for the info?
#57 of 1627 options pricing by totalnet May 01, 2001 (11:04 am)
Planned release for all 2002 C-Class models is July 2001 including the C-Coupe, C-Wagon and C32 AMG.   Here is the product hightlights for the C-Coupe. C230 Kimpressor Coupe-Exciting new styling In a whole new Sports Coupe. The all-new Sports Coupe offers dynamic, sporty styling with the performace to back it up. Powered by the 2.3L Kimpressor engine, it leads its field in performance without sacrifice. The new byers will be younger than anyone that we have ever seen come in and this could very well be their first new car purchase.   Matallic Paint $650 Leather Upholstery $1410 COMMAND System $2080 Automatic Transmission $1300 Bose Sound System $610 Teleaid TBD   C1 Memory Power Front Seats $1225 C2 Panorama Sunroof/Rain Sensor $995 C4 Headlamp Washer/Heated Seats $820   C5 Premium Package - Sunroof/Bose System/Leather Uphostery/Rain Sensor TBA K2 (VPC Installed) Motorola phone with CD Changer TBD K2a (VPC Installed) Same above with Voice Control TBD   There will be two colors exclusive to the coupe, Paprika and Alabaster White. Actually the C32 will also get Alabaster White. Some color and upholstery combination will be special order at $1000.   I don't see the optional Xenon headlights that the other C-class can get on the list.
#58 of 1627 Hellish Options Prices by s852 May 01, 2001 (11:17 am)
The options will certainly send the base price soaring into the stratosphere. For $1410, I sure hope the leather seats are REALLY nice. And then another $1225 for memory seats?!
#59 of 1627 Looks like typical M-B gauging; the test is in the base price by tommyp13 May 01, 2001 (11:48 am)
I'd be looking to get the base with the sunroof only. I'm actually surprised that the sunroof option is so little, considering how much goes into it.   The other bs, I could do without, as I'm sure most of the c230 owners would. Those are more old fart kind of options, and the c230 typical owner should be younger.   I'd go aftermarket leather, as it should be substantially cheaper. The cloth, from what I've seen so far, is pretty nasty.   I think the success of the model will come down to its price, as the M-B name doesn't mean all that much to younger buyers. If it's 27-28, it'll do fine; if it goes over $30, you're looking at another 318ti.
#60 of 1627 by drew_ May 01, 2001 (11:54 am)
That's odd, I could've sworn seeing the HID Xenon headlamp option (with auto leveling) for about US$800. I'd definitely go for the option, considering the 2.5 times increase in illumination. Well, it is a Mercedes-Benz, and if you want it, you should be prepared to pay for it, I guess. MB doesn't want to degrade the prestige of their brand name by offering vehicles that are too "cheap". There will always be people willing to pay for it, so they don't have any worries.   Drew Host Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket & Accessories message boards

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