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#1558 of 1627 Re: How does the Mercedes C230 coupe handle in snow/sleet/ rain?? [peterfromme #1557] by khice May 13, 2004 (10:41 pm)
Replying to: peterfromme (May 12, 2004 5:22 pm) We live north of chicago & my wife drives a 2002 C230 coupe (42 mile RT daily). I recommend getting a set of 16" rims and a good set of snow tires. You don't need weight in the rear. We bought Pirelli Winter 210 Snowsports & had absolutely no problem in slush, deep snow, packed snow, rain, etc. They are also fairly quiet on dry pavement (for a snow tire) and handled well (considering that one should drive more cautiously in inclement weather!). They do not perform as well on dry pavement as a good 17" high-performance tire will but, that's the trade-off. Our first choice were Dunlop Winter Sport M3's (quieter, superior handling in snow) but , both our dealer & Tire Rack were out of them. Blizzaks generally get the best rating but the MZ01's on my E320 Wagon are so noisy I can't wait for them to wear out & replace them!
#1559 of 1627 How Does the Mercedes C230 Coupe Handle in Snow/Sleet/Rain? by scscars May 14, 2004 (7:07 pm)
Peter:   We also live near Chicago (NW suburbs) and have a 2002 C230K Coupe. While the standard-issue Michelin Energy MXV tires were OK during the first winter, we opted to go with a set of 16" Nokian tires this past winter as the Michelins were exhibiting some moderate fishtailing on slick pavement after 27000 miles.   Several commenters on the Mercedes C-Class Town Hall boards have spoken highly of Nokian tires in the past and their compliments were right on the money. The Nokians proved to be excellent this winter, even in snow. We did not need to add weight to the rear after we installed the Nokians. We had set a large bag of cat litter in the hatch when the Michelins started to get cranky. Ironically, the Nokians weren't our first choice. We initially considered Michelin Pilots as winter tires, but the tire dealers by us were sold out early. Apparently they are popular, and expensive--over $700 for a set of 4. The Nokians were on sale and came out to slightly over $600, including mounting and balancing.   The Coupe itself handles very well in all kinds of weather conditions. The ESP (Electronic Stability Program) and Brake Assist really make the Coupe feel as if its riding on rails. Virtually no body roll and very little understeer. In-traffic handling is quick and responsive. I can only imagine how well it handles with 17" wheels. However, I also know that the A4 handles quite well, particularly with Quattro AWD.   An A4 or a C230K is a nice decision to have. Good luck with your choice and your new ride.
#1560 of 1627 2004 C320 Sport Coupe by monty2222 Jun 07, 2004 (6:16 am)
I am signing a lease agreement tomorrow. It is black, has the leather, command, CD changer, sunroof. I am getting it for about $31K, which makes a lease payment just under $500/mo for 39mo. I think it said the residual value would be about $17K or 51%, thought it would be higher. Anyway, anything sound way off about this? Anything I should make sure of before signing? Thanks. Monty Replies to this message: agra (Sep 12, 2004 10:04 am)
#1561 of 1627 Actually.... by jrct9454 Jun 07, 2004 (10:24 am)
...the residual may be a bit optimistic. Coupe resale has been awful. Can't comment on the rest of the financials - the cost of money [APR equivalent] is the only other thing besides the selling price and residual that matters. Only you know if that was competitive.
#1562 of 1627 "Prestige Marque"? My Butt!!! by eyesurgeon Jul 09, 2004 (4:49 pm)
My daughter bought a 2004 C230 coupe in March 2004. After 2400 miles the transmission failed and the car was flat bedded to Sovereign Mercedes-Benz in Brooklyn, NY. As the car was not purchased there, the original dealer authorized a rental car. After 2 days, the vehicle was returned to her and promptly broke down again after just 6 miles!. It was returned to Sovereign who has now had the car for over 2 weeks. According to their mechanic, they overlooked a faulty radiator the first time around and now have to replace the entire transmission as well as the radiator. The parts are on order. In the meantime, Sovereign refuses to provide a loaner vehicle or to authorize a rental and White Plains Mercedes-Benz, the selling dealer, says that it's Sovereign's problem now as the initial repair was mishandled. Mercedes-Benz USA refuses to intervene claiming that it is up to each dealership to determine their own policy regarding loaners and lamely declaring that they have no leverage to force a settlement. My daughter, who needs a vehicle for work, is now out over $700 in rental charges, and counting. This is my daughter's first car and definitely her last Mercedes! If Mercedes-Benz is seeking to alienate the next generation of car buyers they are off to a flying start, which is more than I can say for their cars!
#1563 of 1627 Yep... by jrct9454 Jul 10, 2004 (4:41 am)
...this is the problem with the dealer franchise system in the US, which gives the manufacturer very little control over what individual dealers choose to do.   When you start from scratch, the way Lexus, Infiniti, and Acura did, it's easier to draw up rules in the initial franchise agreement that make it clear how customers will be treated, period. As it is, in most states, it is easier to make gold from lead than it is to punish a car dealer for misbehavior, let alone pull a franchise.   MB gets the blame, of course...that's the irony of all situations like your daughter's. A crappy dealer kills relationships faster than the proverbial speeding bullet.
#1564 of 1627 Too Bad by 307web Jul 11, 2004 (10:53 am)
It's sad that if there is a problem with a dealer, all MBUSA can do is say "We can't do anything about it. **YOU** deal with it."
#1565 of 1627 Transmission & Final Drive, Dealers by fsmmcsi Jul 28, 2004 (9:22 am)
Does anyone know the transmission gear ratios and final drive ratio for our 2002 C230K with the five speed automatic?   It is unfortunate that the states do not allow the manufacturers to revise their franchise agreements to require good custemer service, but there are good dealers. The bad dealers are at a big disadvantage, since all dealers sell the exact same cars. The internet certainly makes it easier to tell other people know about the bad ones.
#1566 of 1627 Decsions, Decsions... by artiste9 Aug 02, 2004 (9:53 pm)
I am purchasing a C230Kompressor this week and I am working between 2 dealers. I can get a 04 brilliant silver ext. with charcoal leather, 6cd changer,panoramic sun roof and auto trans. for 26,900 possible 26,500 with 1.9 apr. or a black ext. with ash leather at the other dealer for about 2k more.   I have had a black cars for 10+ years and swore I would not buy one again. My car is parked in a high school parking lot from 7am to 3 or 4pm in hot Louisiana sun. Do you find the black w/ash leather hot when you get in?  I also go back and forth with the manual vs. auto thing- I adore driving w/ a stick shift but drive an auto for now- and do so 50mi r/t each day...the a.m. is great as I can virtually "fly " to school but the p.m. is bumper to bumper traffic and takes 2x as long as the am. MY family thinks I should do auto for that reason as well as for resale value. Then I can always wait for the 2005 and order just the options I want but won't necessarily get the 1.9 apr or the 4 year maintenance.   I welcome opinions this is my first entry and I will let you all know what I decide by the end of the week. Thanks.
#1567 of 1627 C230 Coupe Experience by skm Aug 10, 2004 (6:19 pm)
I bought a new MB C230 Coupe in 2002. This has been the worst car buying experience ever.   I have now had this car in the dealership for 12 different problems. Problems such as the sunroof not working, the cruise control going out, various malfunction error messages, several electrical problems, and even rusty lug nuts. Can anyone explain how every lug nut on each wheel gets rusted on a 2 year old car when you live in the South?   The resale on this car is terrible. I attempted to trade it in. However, after several dealers offered less than half the original sticker price- although the car was deemed to be in excellent condition- I decided to try selling it on my own.   MB offered no assistance at all. They apparently do not stand behind their product. It would be a gross understatement to say that I am frustrated at this point in time.   The car handles very well, and looks great. However, that doesn't do me a lot of good since it doesn't run worth a darn.   I'm going back to what I know works- a Toyota. Replies to this message: c_coupe (Nov 14, 2005 9:27 pm) rdf63 (Mar 12, 2007 6:08 am)

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