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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan, Wagon
#1781 of 1986 Re: Extended Warranty price on 2009 E-350 [new_to_e]
by abacomike
Jun 19, 2012 (7:40 pm)
Thanks so much for the sage advice
For a 2009 E350 with over 40,000 miles on it, and considering it is the old body style with old technology, you should not pay more than $25,000 including that it is certified by Mercedes and has 4 low mileage tires that are the same brand and size. Remember that the car is 4+ years old. I sold my 2009 E 350 sport with 7000 miles on it in January of 2010 and got $39,000 for it. They had $6000 rebates on those 2009 cars because of the body, transmission and technology upgrades. Most people bought those cars new for $43000 back in April of 2009. So you have to take that into consideration as well!
#1782 of 1986 How much to pay for a 2010 E class
by sksksk
Jun 21, 2012 (4:13 pm)
I am looking to buy a 2010 E350 (new shape). I wonder what is a good price to pay for it ? I am in no hurry and can wait , any suggesstions from anyone ?
If anyone can suggest on negociating on the CPO prices at the dealer , that will help as well.
Currently the best price I have seen is $41000 for 2010 with 38k miles.
#1783 of 1986 Re: How much to pay for a 2010 E class [sksksk]
by abacomike
Jun 21, 2012 (4:30 pm)
2010 E350 with 38,000 miles...
First of all, make sure the car is certified by Mercedes Benz. Secondly, you should not pay any more than $38,000 for the car. Remember, there is a new engine out in the 2012's. They had tremendous incentives on the 2010 E350, so most people paid about $47,000 new for the car.
Offer them $36,000 and counter their offer at $38,000.
Good luck.
#1784 of 1986 Re: Mercedes Benz E350 Price [abacomike]
by art14
Jun 22, 2012 (10:51 am)
Thanks for the help. I did get the price down some more to $49,700 plus tax and tags. The MSRP is $60,395. Is it still a good price because before I did not mention Tax and Tags. hanks for your help.
#1785 of 1986 Re: Mercedes Benz E350 Price [art14]
by kevinc5
Jun 22, 2012 (11:47 am)
Good luck with your new E350. Sounds like a great deal. Where did you get it?
#1786 of 1986 Re: Mercedes Benz E350 Price [art14]
by bass_fisher
Jun 23, 2012 (6:21 pm)
That sounds like a really good deal. I thought that the Conquest cash is only $2000. Can you give us a breakdown from $60k to $50k?
Thanks!
#1787 of 1986 Is this offer & calculation reasonable?
by new_to_e
Jun 24, 2012 (4:59 pm)
Greetings. I'm still looking at a 2009 E350. It's been on the dealer lot for over 45 days. They usually sell their used cars every 16 days, but things are slow here. It's got 42K miles, is not CPO. They are asking $27,879. The dlr registration expires again on 6/30. I'm thinking of making an offer contingent upon a few things. I apologize for the long message, but hopefully folks with different expertise might have a comment. I would appreciate any input.
I searched the Mbusa site for a comparable vehicle to help me with any price adjustments and come up with an offer. I found a comparable vehicle that:
1) Is a CPO - (a $1,300 value according to dealer)
2) has 265 more days of factory warranty (3/4 of a year) - I guestimating is worth about $1,000
3) has slightly lower miles - $238 Edmunds mileage adjustment.
4) and is priced $1,100 more than the one I'm looking at
If I'm calculating things correctly:
$1,300 + $1,000 + $238 = $2,538 add'l value of the comparable car
less $1,100 add'l cost of the comparable vehicle
= $1,438 to reduce the price of the car I'm looking at.
$27,879 my dealer asking price
- $1,438 adjustment using comparable
$26,441
I'm thinking of offering $25,000. What should I really expect to pay?
What I don't understand is that the Edmunds trade-in value is shows around $28K. Can I really expect to pay less than that at a dealer?
And then I’m thinking of adding on a GM Protection Plan Major Guard warranty (hopefully I don't have to pay the tax on it).
I can get a GMPP through the dealer with 4 year/48,000 miles and $200 deductible for $3,035 (basically same price online). That compares to paying $1,300 for a CPO plus $2,295 for a 2 yr MB extension for only 3 years. Personally I hate the idea of having to entertain a warranty in the first place. It's like having to prepay for expected repairs. If I was in the market for a Honda or Toyota with 80K miles I wouldn't be thinking about a warranty. But, hey, I want an E-350 and I think the look of the W211 is classic.
They also offer a 5-year tire & wheel warranty for $850. Considering a 3rd party rim is $800 and a factory one is $1500, this sounds tempting considering historic forum posts and NHTSA issues... but I’m not certain this is needed for a 2009?
The car now has 4 Michelin tires. Two front tires are new. One rear tire has 80% tread, the other rear tire has 50% tread. The dealer is willing to replace the 50% tire with a new one (same brand). It has 45 days left on the original factory warranty. They filled the tank with gas two days earlier. On Sunday we drove it in the service garage but I didn't know where to look to smell for gas to see if the sender unit was leaking. I didn't smell anything, but wasn't sure if I would. They are willing to inspect the sender unit when the mechanics are on duty and I can be there. I have pictures of what one should and should not look like.
The other weird thing is the interior is beige (ok cashmere) but the floor mats in the trunk are black. Should I get these switched out with another car?
Thanks for reading through this.
#1788 of 1986 Re: Is this offer & calculation reasonable? [new_to_e]
by abacomike
Jun 24, 2012 (5:26 pm)
2009 E350 at dealership
$25,000 is a reasonable offer, however they are agreeing to make concessions on their $28800 pricing.
*offer them $27,500 if they include the new tire, a Mercedes certified used car designation (100,000 miles and 2 year extension), and discover and repair the gas leak/odor. My 2009 had a problem with the same part in the fuel system.
*if the floor carpeting is black, then the mats should be black. Is this a sport or luxury? If the carpeting is beige, then have them put in the correct front and rear mats.
I think you are getting too analytical in your decision making process. Do you like the car? Does it drive nicely and handle nicely? Will they allow your own mechanic to look over the car? Will they include everything I have delineated above for $27,500?
If your answers are YES, then buy the car.
#1789 of 1986 Re: Is this offer & calculation reasonable? [abacomike]
by new_to_e
Jun 27, 2012 (5:26 pm)
Thanks for the thoughtful response. You nailed me on the analytical part - I'm a researcher by trade.
It's a luxury sedan. It has the premium command package and sport package. It recently had the 40K mile service completed. I got a print out of all service records from dealer. They agreed to order new beige floor mats & replace the tire. I have a scheduled appointment with their service department on 7/6 to inspect the fuel sender unit and take care of the details.
I found a certified Mercedes mechanic in town who will also inspect the car & and costs a lot less for service repairs if needed. I understand he can also reset service light.
I drove it again today and YES! I like the car, I like the way it handles and drives and looks. I like the way the dealer treated me with absolutely no pressure and accommodated all of my requests at the Alderson dealership in Lubbock, TX.
I have a colleague in town who bought the same vehicle when it was new and hasn't had any problems and referred me to his mechanic.
I've got a few months factory warranty left. I negotiated a price of $26,600 before TTL no warranty (no doc or inspection fees either). Best I could do.
#1790 of 1986 Re: Is this offer & calculation reasonable? [new_to_e]
by abacomike
Jun 27, 2012 (5:42 pm)
You nailed me on...
I have a PhD in educational administration and am quite analytical, as you mentioned.
I would not purchase that car without an extended warranty. Negotiate and see if they will "certify" the car of you gave them another $1200 or so. Bery, very important to keep a Mercedes on warranty if at all possible as they are extremely costly to maintain and repair.
But, you seem very happy with the car. Just try your best to stay happy by getting the certification or extended warranty!!!
ENJOY