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#1663 of 2218 2013 E400 Hybrid
Mar 12, 2012 (3:31 pm)
I was just reading the March-April "The Star" (bi-monthly Mercedes Benz Club of America magazine) and saw a brief article on the new hybrids from Mercedes (p. 18). The E400, due for release in the 3rd quarter of 2012 as a 2013, will have a V6 engine, 302 horsepower (same as the current 2012 non-hybrid V6) and is expected to consume fuel 24 mpg city and 31 mpg highway. Will have lithium-ion batteries.
My question is this: why pay a premium for a hybrid that delivers about the same mpg's as the current non-hybrid? I'm getting 21 around town and 32 on the highway now. I would imagine/guess that the E hybrid will cost at least $4000 - $6000 more than the non-hybrid. So where is the savings?
#1664 of 2218 Re: 2013 E400 Hybrid [abacomike]
Mar 13, 2012 (11:01 am)
Many of us think that Mercedes US made a big mistake by not offering a diesel hybrid which would have been much more efficient. We are stuck with this 1/2 hybrid instead.....and you're right, unless you are making an environmental statement, it will be a poor choice.
#1665 of 2218 Re: 2013 E400 Hybrid [ghstudio]
Mar 13, 2012 (2:39 pm)
I am not really sold on hybrids at this point in my life. I've mentioned here before that I believe the future of personal vehicles and the energy to power them lies in HYDROGEN and hydrogen fuel cell technology. We are probably 10 or so years away from expanded use of this as a power source for automobiles. The major hold-ups in this technology are safety in it's practical use (flammability of hydrogen) and in mass production of hydrogen in fuel cell form.
We have an almost inexhaustible supply of hydrogen in the form of water and the byproduct of hydrogen combustion is mostly in the form of water vapor. I know that BMW has been pursuing hydrogen fuel cell technology and currently has a small test fleet of hydrogen powered 750i's in California and several other locales around the globe.
Let's hope we live to see this come to pass in our lifetimes.
#1666 of 2218 extented warranties
Mar 24, 2012 (7:14 am)
I ON THE E BOARD BECAUSE THE S BOARD IS NOT VERY ACTIVE. ANYWAY, I BOUGHT A 2009 S550 YESTERDAY. WHAT A BEAUTY! IT HAS 25,000 MILES ON IT AND IT IS CERTIFIED UNTIL FEB. 2014. THE FINANCE MANAGER LITERALLY HOUNDED ME ABOUT BUYING THE ADDITIONAL EX. WARR. (2YR.&135K MILES). I SAID MAYBE LATER. FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, I WILL ONLY HAVE ONLY 65,000 MILES ON IT(ACCORDING TO MY DRIVING HABITS).WHAT DO YOU SAY? THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY.
#1667 of 2218 Re: extented warranties [bimlover]
Mar 25, 2012 (3:25 am)
I think it depends upon the cost. To extend the warranty to 4 more years and 135k miles is great (2 years more than you have now). First of all, it must be a MERCEDES BENZ extended warranty, not a second party warranty. Next, I would be willing to pay $1200 - $1400 for the additional 2 years and peace of mind. But make sure you are going to keep the car for 4 years.
Next, is the warranty transferrable to the next owner if you decide to sell or trade the car before the end of the warranty.
Finally, it's up to you. Even though you do not drive that much, if you should have a system failure or a breakdown caused by an unknown failure, it could cost upwards of $5000 to repair and/or identify. This is a Mercedes, not a Ford, so maintenance alone is 5-10 times more costly than a Ford or Chevy. Just imagine the cost of a new a/c compressor or a power steering unit.
Remember, it's just buying you peace of mind!
#1668 of 2218 Re: extented warranties [abacomike]
Mar 25, 2012 (6:24 am)
the ext.warranty(2yr.&135k miles) added $93.00 a month for 60 months 2.99% to the car note. that means the finance manager was charging approx. $5000 dollars for the bmz ext. warranty.and yes, i will keep this car for well over 4 years. most likely, i won't sell it.
#1669 of 2218 Re: extented warranties [bimlover]
Mar 25, 2012 (7:41 am)
why do I cringe everytime someone talks about monthly payment as cost?
$5000 for 2 years extended warranty is too steep. I would NOT touch it.
135k miles is bogus as you said. price a mechanical breakdown insurance from geico or someone else if you really need protection of 2 more years.
#1670 of 2218 Re: extented warranties [bimlover]
Mar 25, 2012 (8:00 am)
That's an outrageous cost - $5000 is a scam, to be sure. No wonder he is bugging you to buy the extended warranty.
I doubt that the true dealer cost for the Mercedes Warranty is $5000. He is probably marking the cost up by $3000 or more. As I mentioned in my response to your first post, if it was $1200 -$1400 in cost, even $1500, I would purchase the extended MERCEDES BENZ warranty. But $5000 is a true scam.
If you plan on keeping the car for another 4 years, and it costs more than $1500 or so to get a Mercedes Benz Warranty, I would get nothing. You can pay cash for a mechanical problem by saving the $5000 on the 2 year extension of the warranty.
What I would do is go back to the dealer and offer him $1500 or so for the waranty. If he says no, go to another Mercedes Dealer and negotiate an extended Mercedes Warranty. I am sure the finance guy is making a fortune on the back end with charging you that much for the warrnaty. A 2 year extension on your certified Mercedes Benz cannot be that costly, in reality.
#1671 of 2218 Re: extented warranties [abacomike]
Mar 25, 2012 (4:52 pm)
I DID NOT WANT TO BUY A CAR FROM DOWNTOWN LA MOTORS MERCEDES IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT THEY HAD THE PRE-OWNED CAR I WAS LOOKING FOR ( PLUS IT HAD LOW MILEAGE). I WILL GO TO HOUSE OF IMPORTS TO NEGOTIATE FOR THE EXT. WARRANTY. HOUSE OF IMPORTS HAS A BETTER REPUTATION.
#1672 of 2218 Re: extented warranties [bimlover]
Mar 25, 2012 (5:17 pm)
I am not familiar with LA dealers, but you should go to the dealer you like/have positive vibes about to negotiate the extended warranty price. You should try meeting the manager or director of the service dept. and explain your situation and that you will be servicing your car there.
Then bring up the extended warranty. I know you can get one for much less - thousands less than $5000. Remember, your car already has an extended warranty through the certification process. Thus, it should be no problem to get the extension. Good luck!