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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan, Wagon
#1628 of 2215 Re: Used E350 [madipac]
Feb 22, 2012 (9:11 am)
33K sounds just about right for the car. I would contact as many Mercedes Benz Dealers in your area and ask if they have any cars like that in stock that are CERTIFIED! Also, if they can meet the price with about the same miles on the car. If they can't, find out how much it would cost to purchase the extended warranty for up to 100K and 6 years or 7 years. My guess is that it would not be more than 1800 or so.
That brings the cost of your car to 35K. I am sure you can find a certified 2009 with low miles (25k -35K) at that price.
I always recommend that you purhcase from a dealership where the car has been certified. There are also some special finance rates available on certified MB cars from dealership through MB Financial.
Good Luck and let me know how you make out!
#1629 of 2215 Re: Do E350s come with run-flats? [abacomike]
Feb 22, 2012 (12:45 pm)
You mean that the tires through the dealer are $100 per tire less? Which tires are those?
#1630 of 2215 Re: Do E350s come with run-flats? [lawcar]
Feb 22, 2012 (1:07 pm)
What I was discussing was the fact that if I were to purchase 2 front and 2 rear tires from Michelin (Pilot Super Sports), I would be paying about $100 per tire more than if I were to go to Pirelli or Continental and purchase the same tires (by size and rating) as the ones I got with the car.
The frustration is that he better tires (Michelin Pilot Super Sports) will not be warranted for their usual 30,000 mile tread life because I would not be rotating the tires since they are different sizes, front and rear. So they cut the warranty to 15,000 miles tread wear for the life of the tire. That's about the same mileage I get on my standard tires (Continentals). So why pay $100 more per tire to get Michelins when they don't warrant the tread life for the full 30,000 miles. I wouldn't mind spending the $100 more per tire if I could be guaranteed they would last for 30,000 miles, but they would not!
In summary, I am not going to pay $365 a tire to get Michelins if I can get Continentals for $250 or $260 a tire. The problems of tread wear has to do with the fact that the tires cannot be rotated. If they could, the tread life would be extended significantly. But Michelin is not going to warrant the tread life for 30,000 miles, only 15,000 miles for the reasons mentioned above. They only warrant 30,000 mile tread life if all four tires put on the car are the same exact size!
Hope you understand, Dave.
#1631 of 2215 Re: Do E350s come with run-flats? [abacomike]
Feb 22, 2012 (1:45 pm)
Got it. How are the Continental and Pirellis? I recall reading that Continentals are not great.
#1632 of 2215 Re: Do E350s come with run-flats? [lawcar]
Feb 22, 2012 (2:14 pm)
I've had Pirelli's on one E350, Michelin's on one E350, and the rest (4) had Continentals. I found the Continentals to be quieter than the Pirelli's and the Michelin's I had on the 2009 were the noisiest of all. I don't think they wear very well, but I got 18,000 miles on the set. Not bad considering you can't rotate these tires.
I prefer a little quieter ride on the highway. I really haven't had any problems with the Continentals. Remember, I had 4 E350's with them and they all performed great. Bridgestone's and Continental's came with my BMW's, 2005-2008. They also performed well on the BMW, it was the car that I hated.
When I am ready for tires, which won't be for about a year, I'll probably price them around town (Pep Boys, Tire Kingdom, etc.) and then go to my Mercedes Dealership who said he would match or beat any price I got anywhere else. I also have a $500 coupon the General Manager gave me which I will use toward the purchase. Looks like I won't hit 10,000 miles before my year anniversary in October. So, I guess that's when I'll have my first A service.
Hope I haven't confused you, Dave.
Feb 23, 2012 (1:02 pm)
No, you made it clear. I thought you had the Super Pilots before, which is why you like them. When I need tires eventually, I'll check with you because your probably severaly months ahead of me. I'll check out our local tire stores as well as the MB dealer which I bought the car.
#1634 of 2215 Re: Got it. [lawcar]
Feb 23, 2012 (4:32 pm)
Not necessarily! I only have 2800 miles on the car and I've had it for over 4 months. I only drive about 9000 miles a year so my guess is that you will need tires before I need them. I expect to keep this car for at least 3 years which is when Mercedes usually makes a major body change (about once every 7 years). So I expect that the next Mercedes I purchase will be when they make that major change in body and engine.
I understand they are working on a new engine with 300+ horsepower which will attain over 35 mpg's on the highway. Another car that looks pretty sharp is that new Lexus GS. The only problem I have with Lexus is that they are made by Toyota. A women who lives a few buildings away from me lost control of her 2004 Camry yesterday while driving in our condo area. Her car unexpectedly accelerated and she lost control of her car. She crashed into a tree along our major drive. Quite a bit of damage to both her car and this huge ficus tree. She was taken to the hospital and is still hospitalized. This all took place in a posted 25 mph zone. I live in a huge condo community with about 2200 units on a 900 acre parcel with golf course. So I am still a little wary of Toyota products.
We'll compare notes when we get replacement tires, which will be sometime next year!
#1635 of 2215 Re: Got it. [abacomike]
Feb 24, 2012 (8:24 am)
I put on about 12,000 miles a year, so I'll probably be the guinea pig for new tires. I've had 4 Lexus cars over the years: 2 ES series and 2 GS series. The ES is a very good value and has a lot of standard features at a bit less cost than MB or BMW. However, it is a very cushy ride (I had the ES as my first entry level Lexus on 3 year leases). The GS has a better ride and handling (not as responsive as a BMW, but noticably more than the ES) and also is a good value. I haven't driven the new GS though. I know the residual value on the GS was not as good as BMW or Lexus. When I leased my BMW in 2009, the payments on it were $100/month less than the GS. I didn't care for the MB at the time and so got the BMW. I'm very happy with my 2012 E350 and since I'm buying it, hope to keep it 5 years even if body style and engine changes.
#1636 of 2215 Re: Got it. [lawcar]
Feb 24, 2012 (12:43 pm)
Used to be a Lexus fan. When I lived in Palm Desert and Chatsworth, I leased a 1976 ES300 and again in 1999 I leased another ES300. In 2001, I leased a GS300 and, I must admit, the GS300 was nice, but a little soft, as you mentioned. That's when I went to BMW with a 530i. Finally went back to Mercedes (had Mercedes in 1986, 87, 91 and 94) in 2008 after that bad experience with 2-2008 535i's - the first one I bought, the second one was replaced by BMW because they couldn't fixt the first one. Then, when I had the same exact problem on the second one they built for me, I asked for, and received my money back and went right to Mercedes. Been with them ever-since.
But I did take note of that new GS that just came out and it is really sharp looking. Something to think about in the future, definitely not now. Quite frankly, I personally feel the Mercedes sport package is just a tad too stiff for me. But, when you're having fun with a car, you tend to overlook some of the imperfections in the ride. I think, from experience, that the Mercedes sport package rides just a harshly as the BMW sport package in the 5 series.
As for those tires, you are correct in assuming you will be getting replacements before I will. Besides, the more stop and go driving you do, the faster these tires will wear out.
#1637 of 2215 Not All Mercedes Dealerships Are Friendly!
Feb 25, 2012 (1:09 pm)
I had an opportunity to take a neighbor of mine over to a brand new Mercedes Dealership owned by the same company as the one I got my Mercedes at! My neighbor preferred purchasing his new car at the new dealership (only about 2 miles from where we live) because he did not want to drive the extra 15 miles to my dealership. Since he knows I have purchased many Mercedes Benz vehicles, so he wanted me to help him with negotiations.
The dealership is truly beautiful, but unfortunately the people who work inside are not - what I mean is they are assertive, overly aggressive and very unpleasant. When we pulled up in my car (my neighbor had just sold his car privately) we were met outside the front door (he didn't even let us get inside before starting his pitching). He asked why we were coming into his dealership since he noticed I was driving a new 2012 E350, and we told him my friend was interested in a new car. He then had the nerve to ask me why I didn't take him to my dealership (he saw the name of my dealership on my license plate frame) to get his car - "...were you unhappy with your salesperson?" I could not believe his nasty approach, but I held my tongue, as did my neighbor, and walked into the showroom. The salesperson followed us in and immediately started on my friend - "...are you going to buy or lease your new car today or are you just looking?" It took less than 10 seconds for my friend to ask for a different person to speak with. The salesperson went right for his manager and things got even worse! The manager came over and asked what the problem was, and after my neighbor explained his reason, the manager said if he didn't want to work with the salesperson who waited in him, he could take his business someplace else!
I personally have never had an experience like that in all the years I've been buying cars!
I wonder how long it will be before corporate changes the management of that new dealership?