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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan, Wagon
#1488 of 1988 Re: Buying a New 2012 E350 [abacomike]
Jan 12, 2012 (11:45 am)
Yes, you laid it out quite well. Synthetic oil every 10k miles. We've got a Acura MDX I'll use for running around town errands. The E can be for road trips. From what I understand the new E-class has reduced friction in the engine by 30%. Hopefully the new E will show improvement over its predecessor. They next step will be for Mercedes to reduce the need for service visits. I'm confident Mercedes got this one right. I appreciate all the information you've provided. Now I want to get a vintage Benz and start tinkering. Thanks again.
Oh yeah, I did pick up the ding protection and wheel protection coverage. Between parking lots and bad roads in Jersey I thought it made sense. Take care.
#1489 of 1988 Re: Buying a New 2012 E350 [damandamif]
Jan 12, 2012 (12:11 pm)
The wheel protection coverage is really a must with the AMG wheel package. I live in south Florida, so I don't get the wheel protection package because our roads are quite good. But in New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, I would imagine the roads are like the surface of the moon in certain areas. When I lived in New York, pot holes were expected with the snow, ice, sleet and salt used during the winter.
If you are looking for an older Benz to tinker with and enjoy, I always enjoyed the 280E from the 1970's. What an automobile. If you could find one that still runs, they are truly gems.
#1490 of 1988 Re: Buying a New 2012 E350 [abacomike]
Jan 12, 2012 (3:41 pm)
280E Hah? Thanks I'll check into that suggestion.
Jan 12, 2012 (9:26 pm)
What does everybody think of a lease of $586 a month( tax is included in lease payment) for 2012 E350 sport 4matic 10k/yr for 33 months with P1 pkg, rear spoiler, comfort box split folding rear...MSRP 58,495. That price is with nothing down except for nl inception fees . 626 for 24 months
#1492 of 1988 Re: lease ? [drjmak]
Jan 13, 2012 (2:44 am)
What are the inception costs? You state there is nothing "down". What is the .626 for 24 months? Certainly not the money factor on a different lease?
In other words, your info does not provide enough to give you adequate feedback.
Is the lease for 33 months or 24 months?
What does the ".626 for 24 mean"?
What are the exact inceptions and please break the inception fees down?
#1493 of 1988 Side view mirrors on new E350
Jan 13, 2012 (9:16 am)
The new E350 doesn't have electric folding side view mirrors. This is handy if parking on a narrow street, or driving through a narrow 2-way street. You can manually fold them in, but if you need to do quickly, there is a problem. With all of the electronic features they have, I was surprised they don't have this. The owners manual said that Canadian models have this feature though. Wonder why. That said, it's a great car.
#1494 of 1988 Re: Side view mirrors on new E350 [lawcar]
Jan 13, 2012 (11:17 am)
Yes, I agree completely with your criticism. BMW has had this feature on their 5 series cars since 2007 - I had a 2006 and when I got my 2007, it had become a standard feature on the 535i.
The only time I miss that feature is when I have to take the Mercedes in for a car wash at a carwash. That is a rarity since my Mercedes dealer in Delray Beach provides me with complimentary car washes once a week. But it is definitely an important feature, especially in tight-fitting parking spaces in malls or in bank parking lots.
I can't explain the rationale for Canadian models having it and US models devoid of the power side-view mirrors. They are not even available as an extra-cost option. I am going to bet that it will be added to the P1 and/or P2 package in the next year or two. Think of it in the same way you do "optional" leather interiors. Why leather seats are not standard on the E350 has been a sore point with E350 owners. 98% of all luxury automobiles in the $57,000 and up category have leather as a standard feature. BMW does not have leather seats standard on their 5 series cars either, but is added when the premium package is ordered. On the E350, it is only available as a stand-alone extra cost option and is not part of the P1 or P2 package, which it should be.
BMW has changed their add-on options from an a-la-carte approach to a "package" approach. When I ordered my BMW's from the factory, which was rare, to get a the premium audio system or a rear sunshade or leather seats or xenon lights or navigation, etc., these were available as stand-alone options only. Now, BMW makes these available in several package offerings.
This is just a flaw in Mercedes Benz's marketing strategy. If they sampled prospective Mercedes Benz owners, they would find out that we want leather and power-retractable side-view mirrors, etc., as standard features.
Excellent observation about side mirrors.
#1495 of 1988 Re: Buying a New 2012 E350 [abacomike]
Jan 14, 2012 (8:24 am)
I visited the dealer Euromotorcars and this is what he offered me for e350 sport with p1, and some other stuff..
Negotiated price $52392 includes conquest rebate of $2000
Sticker was $58500
MB prepaid Maintenance 1560
Wheel n tire protect 1995
Acquisition fee 795
Sales tax (MD) full taxes 3155
Doc fee 199
33 month lease 12k miles per yr
Monthly payment 803.95
Down payment 5293
Let me know what you think.
#1496 of 1988 Re: Buying a New 2012 E350 [hpatel79]
Jan 14, 2012 (10:29 am)
I do not believe that is a good deal! If you are putting 5293 down, which covers most of your add-ons, I believe you can do much better. I would go to at least 2 other dealerships and compare pricing on a lease like yours. To go to just one dealer is like commiting new car suicide.
I have one question - it seems like you are paying all the sales taxes up front -is that normal for your state. I do know that some states require that taxes be paid up front on leases - so check to make sure your state requires up-front payment of taxes on your lease. If not, you are in even worse shape than I thought!
#1497 of 1988 NEW ENGINE SPECS FOR E350's SOLD AFTER 2/12/12
Jan 14, 2012 (10:28 am)
I was just a my dealership and found out the following:
All new E350's currently at the port are being "held" until February because they are now coming in from Germany with the ability to burn gasoline that is 85% ethanol. The E350's sold prior to that cannot burn 85% ethanol, only 90% ethanol. That is the reason there has been a shortage of 2012 E350 Sedans - they were not building sufficient quantities of the engine version that cannot burn 85% enthanol - they were waiting until the new version of the engine was introduced in February. Very interesting, to say the least. That is why they had such "rich" incentives on the 2012 through December - to sell all of the previous versions unable to burn 85% enthanol. Who ever said the Germans weren't smart? Not me! I just hope that the 2012 versions sold prior to that date don't lose tremendous value due to the inability to burn 85% enthanol!
Also found out why Mercedes has resisted making leather seating standard - it's because they sell thousands and thousands of E class sedans in Europe and Asia as TAXI CABS! Cabbies do not want leather in their E class sedans because leather does not wear as well as the MB Tex. I knew there had to be a reason, and now we have the reason. Of course, Mercedes could make leather standard on all E class sedans produced for export to the U.S., but that would be too simple, I guess.