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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan, Wagon
#1259 of 1986 response to questions
Dec 09, 2011 (12:59 pm)
1. Is the leather that much better than the leatherette standard? This is my first luxury car and my existing vehicles are all leather-like interiors. THE REALITY IS THAT THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, BUT SINCE THIS IS YOUR FIRST LUXURY CAR, GO FOR LEATHER, YOU'LL FEEL BETTER.
2. Should I go in with the maintenance package included in my negotiating price or add that on top of where we end up? IF YOU LEASE, THEN YES, OTHERWISE, NO
3. I see on here many comments about a shortage of 2012 vehicles...is the 2012 so much different than 2011? I'd be happy w/a 2011 unless there's some can't-live-without improvements on the 2012. YES, THE ENGINE IN THE 2012'S IS SIGNFICANTLY STRONGER
4. Any idea of the price of the nav system outside of the P1 package? CAN'T GET IT...ONLY WITH p1 OR P2
5. Any "must have" options that I'm missing? PREMIUM 2 PACKAGE
6. It appears the base invoice is $49,281 and Mercedes will give me $2000 through the Employee Allowance Bonus Program, taking the price to $47,281. I've also been advised by a number of friends who've negotiated w/MB that I should include MB's employee 8-12% discount to get to my bottom line. So I am thinking of starting at 12%, taking the price to $41,607 (without the options I outlined above). Does this sound feasible?NO IDEA...
7. We will qualify for the 1.9%, which I see in many threads can be negotiated down, so where should I start with that - offer 1%? ANSWERED BEFORE
8. I can put 10% down but would rather not...can that be done? NO IDEA ON PURCHASE. NO MONEY DOWN ON LEASES.
#1260 of 1986 Just got a great deal on a 2012 e350
Dec 10, 2011 (5:40 pm)
I've been researching this car for a few months and talking to a couple dealers. I went in earlier this week to one dealer because they told me they would give me $6k off a 2012 e350 with p1. Everything was great until we got to financing. My credit is ok but not great. They offered 9.5%. I laughed and left. I called the dealership closer to me and spoke with the general sales manager. He said to fax my app to him and he'd get the deal done. An hour later his sales person calls and has the deal done for $7.3k off and 1.9%. I had to wait 2 days for the car to come. Went in signed papers no problems no fuss.
#1261 of 1986 Re: Just got a great deal on a 2012 e350 [bzjam]
Dec 10, 2011 (5:51 pm)
Can you post more details (price paid on the car) on your deal? I am in the market too, also can you include dealership name?
#1262 of 1986 Re: Just got a great deal on a 2012 e350 [bzjam]
Dec 10, 2011 (7:18 pm)
If you don't mine, where are you and who was the dealer? Sounds like a stand-up guy and I'm sure he'd appreciate a plug. Thanks.
#1263 of 1986 Re: Just got a great deal on a 2012 e350 [bzjam]
Dec 11, 2011 (5:39 am)
Would be interested in knowing what incentives were included in deal. I am going to assume you had incentives because you purchased the car for well under what the dealer paid for the car.
*Currently there is a 2000.00 conquest incentive on the 2012
*Currently, there is a 2000.00 MB Financial incentive to those who currently have a MB lease or an MB loan - which could not be bundled with the conquest incentive since it is a "conquest", or taking a customer who owns a luxury car, but not a Mercedes, and bringing them into the fray, so to speak
There is also a special incentive available to dealers for loyalty. The amount I believe is 2000.00. This incentive may be able to be bundled with the MB financial incentive.
USAA provides a pricing level for members of 500.00 over invoice LESS 2000.00. That cannot be combined with most other incentives - but the MB financial incentive CAN be combined with it.
You got a great deal, even assuming incentives.
As an example, in October, my 62,325 E350 sport was sold to me for $55,300, and included MB maintenance for 3 years, a 1000.00 or so value.
But that included USAA incentive and MB Financial Incentive of 1500 (which is what the incentive was in October). Invoice on the car was $58275.00, so I bought the car for about 3000 under invoice.
Enjoy your car - I've never had an E class sedan that handled, acceleratred and provided fuel economy like this new 2012.
#1264 of 1986 Re: Just got a great deal on a 2012 e350 [abacomike]
Dec 11, 2011 (6:31 am)
I didn't qualify for any incentives. When they were offering the $4000 conquest I had considered buying an old Cadillac for $1000 just to qualify but I didn't. I was told the special pricing was part of the "Winter Sales Event" they are having. I think it also has something to do with me being in constant contact with them over the past few months waiting for the right deal. I rented the 2011 e350 last week in Miami and thought it was great. When I got my 2012 e350 I thought wow they fixed all of the little things I didn't like about the 2011 such as the location of the iPhone connector, the extra hp and gas mileage, the improved graphics on the instrument panel, and the sd card slot instead of the PCMCIA slot. I think the reverse camera is slightly better too although I have to say the one on my Ford Expedition was much better then both.
#1265 of 1986 Re: Just got a great deal on a 2012 e350 [bzjam]
Dec 11, 2011 (4:04 pm)
Personally, after speaking with my best friend, who interestingly enough is the general sales manager of the dealership where I buy all my Mercedes Benz vehicles, he cannot understand how you could buy a new E350 sedan with P1 for 7,000 dollars + under MSRP without incentives. If what you state is correct, and you did not qualify for any incentives, the dealer sold you the car at a loss to him of over $3000.00.
Let's assume the car MSRP'd at 57125. Subtract 875 shipping and then multiply by .93 (his invoice factor), then add back the shipping cost of 875.00. Thus, his invoice is 53187.50. In addition to this, there is about 2% holdback or $1000, give or take a few bucks. Thus, his actual, dead cost for the vehicle is about 52,000.00. But you paid over 7,000 below MSRP. My best friend told me that he has never, ever heard of anyone getting that much off MSRP, with no incentives from USAA or Mercedes Benz, or Mercedes Benz Financial. He also added that not even he could purchase a vehicle for that price, and he is the GM.
His guess is that you qualified for at least $3500 in incentives in order to buy the car for what your purchased it for.
I sure would like to know how you were able to get a car for what you paid for it with no incentives. He also would like to know that. He said he would love to purchase cars for his inventory from your dealer, if you could let us know who the dealer was. He said he would call him up and buy as many as he would let him have.
#1266 of 1986 Re: Just got a great deal on a 2012 e350 [abacomike]
Dec 11, 2011 (5:47 pm)
Maybe it has something to do with the end of the year and taxes, maybe its the holiday season and he was in the giving mood, but I don't think it would be a $3000 loss especially when other dealerships are willing to do $6000 off with no incentives also. Merry Christmas to all (me especially I guess!) and good luck with your deals.
#1267 of 1986 Confusing MB Web Site vs European Delivery
Dec 13, 2011 (7:42 am)
I ordered my E350 in November for January 2012 delivery. There has been confusion from day one about the Purchase Order vs. the Confirmation of Order from MB.
I ordered thru the dealer option 401 Heated and Ventilated Seats. That required my upgrade to leather so I chose to do so. When I got the Confirmation a few days later it did not show option 401 for $450 but rather option 432 Active Multicontour Drivers Seat with massage. I didn't raise an objection because the $660 option was more then I ordered and I presumed, incorrectly, that the option included ventilated seats, the option I really wanted.
Skip forward a month and when I went into the dealership to pay for the vehicle the saleslady noted the difference and told me I was not getting ventilated seats. We have no clue as to why MB European Delivery did not follow the salespersons purchase order. I already have my reservations in January to pick up the vehicle.
The only solution from MB was to get a loaner during my trip and have a new configured vehicle made which probably would delay delivery another month or two. I opted not to delay.
Further confusion is directly from their web site. It says P2 includes multi contour seats. Is the vibrator truly a $600 option above that or am I being charged twice, one in P2 and again as separate option?
Any suggestions? Can't they just simply make the adjustment to my car since they have one month's notice to correct their mistake?
Dec 13, 2011 (8:26 am)
Would $2,000 below dealer invoice (Conquest incentive included) be a good deal on 2012 E 350 Luxury, with P 1 package? Can I do better? Also, can/should I get 3 year prepaid Maintenance package thrown in? Finally, I would like to get the 5 spoke wheels on the 17" Luxury package, but the brochre doesn't say they're available. Can the dealer switch them out? Thanks for any assistance.