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#1198 of 2213 Re: 2011 E350 Sport gas milage [wireless]
Nov 01, 2011 (1:14 pm)
There is really no comparison (2011 to 2012). The 2012 responds quickly at low rpm's, especially when just starting off from a standing stop. You have be very careful as the engine responds so quickly. The same is true at middle rpm's. When I am on the highway, and want to pass another vehicle, I no longer have to kick it down hard to get to the speed I need to attain in order to pass. It just seems to accelerate without kicking it down.
I noted your comment about the sound of the engine. The 2011 sounded "tinnier", while the 2012 sounds "throatier". Even from a standing stop, as you accelerate, the engine sounds more like a V8 thand a V6. To be honest, it sounds like a muscle car. Not obnoxiously loud, just very "throaty". Remember, they retooled the engine with the new dual intakes boosting horsepower by 34 and boosting torque by 38 lb ft.
What amazes me is that they produced an engine with formidible horsepower (302) and increased fuel eonomy substantially.
When you compare this engine to the BMW 535i, the Mercedes Benz responds more quickly (300 hp vs 302 hp). Yet the BMW has higher torque than the Benz. We own a new 535i, and I find the Benz quicker and more responsive. They weigh about the same, but you are comparing an inline 6 with a V6.
Yes, this car is definitely a huge improvement over the 2011 and 2010 performance-wise.
#1199 of 2213 MB E350 sedan buying price
Nov 03, 2011 (6:37 pm)
Hi experts, How much below invoice should I be able to get the 2012 E350 Sedan fully loaded? What other incentives are allowed if I do not own a competitive car and MB finance account?
thanks in advance for your answer.
#1200 of 2213 Re: MB E350 sedan buying price [mb18]
Nov 04, 2011 (7:33 am)
Hi, mb18. I do not consider myself and "expert", however I do know alot about the E350 sedan.
I do not know what you mean by "loaded". There are so many different packages and options, some which you may not want or desire. Besides, it doesn't matter how loaded a mercedes is in determining the best price.
The only incentives I have seen are for financing rates (1.9%) and a lease special. I am not aware of any other incentives at the present time. You would have to check with your dealer or with "Edmunds" and build the car you want, exactly. Edmunds, the last time I checked, does not show prices yet for the E350 sedan, but "cars.com" does show them, along with invoice.
The rule of thumb with Mercedes Benz E350 sedans for determining dealer invoice is to subtract 875 from the MSRP. Multiply that number by .935 to determine the approximate dealer invoice (give or take 100 or so dollars), then add back the 875 (delivery charge). That will give you dealer invoice, but remember, TRUE DEALER COST IS ABOUT 3% LESS THAN THAT IF YOU INCLUDE HOLD BACK AND SPECIAL FACTORY INCENTIVES. which most dealers are reluctant to part with until the very end of the model year, and since the E350 sedans just hit the dealerships, and most dealers only have about 6 or 10 of them in inventory, they are not going to be very anxious to discount these cars very heavily.
Remember, I paid $55,300 + tax and dealer fees for my car, with an MSRP or sticker price of $62325.00 because I had the USAA incentive and the Mercedes Benz Financial incentive.
You ask the question, "HOW MUCH BELOW INVOICE" can I get a 2012 E350 sedan. My response would be, "...you would be lucky to get one right now for a thousand under MSRP Sticker.
#1201 of 2213 closing on an 2011 E350 sale -- need advice
Nov 04, 2011 (10:07 am)
I (think) have a great offer on a new 2011 Blutec with P2 package for 48500 before tax and title. Do you think there is more room to negotiate the price down? From my research it looks like this is below invoice considering the options and trim. What am I missing here? Is the dealer selling it at a loss?
Also regarding the prepaid maintenance ... is that negotiable or is it a standard price that MB has on their website? Do you recommend that I take it for atleast the first 4 years? Does this maintenance cover the bluetec liquid refill that is required every 10,000 miles?
#1202 of 2213 2012 lease E350 4 matic P1 Detroit area
Nov 04, 2011 (10:54 am)
coming out of a 2009 E350 lease in March. Currently paying $500 for 15k year w 1800 upfront costs which were due at signing. Any way I can accomplish the same sort of deal in today's financial climate? I know I am eligible for pull ahead, so could get out of lease now and loyalty incentive as well. Think there will be better deals for December etc. ?Right now I am getting quotes for about $660 for 12k lease , 1800 upfront for E 350 lux p1 package. Thanks .
Who knows it might be time for that Buick Lacrosse AWD.. eeek.
#1203 of 2213 Re: closing on an 2011 E350 sale -- need advice [vikz001]
Nov 05, 2011 (4:15 am)
First, without knowing MSRP, there is no way to tell how you are doing. If the car has a P2 package, I am assuming the MSRP is around 59,000. IF he offered you 48,500, I would consider that a good deal. There is no change in cars from 2011 to 2012, so there is no incentive to buy a 2012.
As for maintenance, I would offer him 49,000 plus 3 years of maintenance. See what he says.
#1204 of 2213 Re: 2012 lease E350 4 matic P1 Detroit area [revras]
Nov 05, 2011 (4:30 am)
what's the $1800 up front??? bad idea. Use the same money for multiple security deposits. If they won't give you the maintenance, see if you can add it to the lease like any other feature so you only pay the residualized amount (if the car is worth 50% at the end of the lease, you would only pay 50% or the maintenance cost....if you can residualize it). Different dealers seem to think it can or can't be done...and both have been accepted by mercedes finance.
#1205 of 2213 2012 E350 Convertible- Is this a good price???
Nov 06, 2011 (9:10 am)
List $68,605- P2, Apperance, Metallic paint, Lane Departure....36 month lease, 10k miles, 3 yr maint. plan. $695 p/month (including NJ sales tax) $1900 out of pocket (1st month, title, reg, tags, bank fee) also includes fleet of $2k and loyalty of $2k-
#1206 of 2213 Re: 2012 E350 Convertible- Is this a good price??? [bknyc]
Nov 06, 2011 (9:30 am)
Use multiple security deposits which may reduce your monthly payments considerably. Why pay the bank fee up front...just roll it into the lease.
#1207 of 2213 Re: 2012 E350 Convertible- Is this a good price??? [ghstudio]
Nov 06, 2011 (9:58 am)
Do yo u know if the price seems ok?