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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan, Wagon
#1186 of 2217 Re: You're right! [richardnva]
Oct 28, 2011 (3:28 am)
Yes! From what I have learned from the general manager at the dealer I buy my cars from is that the MBtex does not "give". Additionally, if you perforate a vinyl, it weakens it. That is why you must order leather.
And, you are correct in your statement that it is a double whammy. Leather is 1620 dollars along with the 500 dollars or so for the ventilated seats (all they do is perforate all the leather with holes and add a fan under each seat). So, you are paying over 2000 dollars to get ventilated seats. As I have mentioned before on this site, Mercedes Benz just seems to refuse to make leather standard, as does BMW (you must purchase Dakota leather or a premium package to get leather) on the E 350 as well as the C class. When you are purchasing a car for 56000 (or 62,350 in my case), you would think leather should be standard. Leather is standard on INfiniti, LExus, Jaguar, Cadillac, Lincoln, to name a few. Why not MErcedes?
I rest my case!
#1187 of 2217 leather...or not
Oct 28, 2011 (3:37 am)
Do some research. Many buyers don't want leather. Myself, yes, but I'm on my way right now to pick up a 2012 Merc for my wife that has MB-TEX. She insisted on it because of durability, wear characteristics, and ease of cleaning.
#1188 of 2217 Re: leather...or not [wireless]
Oct 28, 2011 (6:50 am)
I agree with you. I"ve had MBtex on all my E350's, and quite frankly, I prefer that over leather. But, unfortunately, in order to get the ventilated seats, you must order leather. The ventilated seats cannot be ordered with MBtex. So, as you can see, I was forced to get the leather.
What I was trying to communicate is that most luxury cars come standard with leather. Mercedes does not, at least in its C and E class cars. As I also stated, I cannot tell the difference between MBtex and leather, with the exception of the aroma in the car from the leather.
If given a choice (which I was not), I would have the MBTex, especially here in Florida where the hot sun eventually deteriorates the leather.
#1189 of 2217 Re: leather...or not [abacomike]
Oct 28, 2011 (3:53 pm)
I am south florida and I opted for the light beige M-tex interior rather than upgrading to leather with ventilated seats. The A/C is terrific in this car and I have not regretted my decision. If I wanted a black interior, I think I might have opted for the leather.
For those wondering why Mercedes doesnt make leather standard....the answer is obvious....competitive pricing combined with profit.
#1190 of 2217 Re: leather...or not [abacomike]
Oct 28, 2011 (4:03 pm)
Ya know, the MB is perforated but to be honest I did feel they were a little warmer than leather.
#1191 of 2217 Re: 2012 E350 Sedan [bevbran]
Oct 29, 2011 (12:48 pm)
Thanks for your input.
But for 2012 you can get a walnut burl interior with the sport model.
I saw this in the cars I was looking at.
#1192 of 2217 Re: You're right! [abacomike]
Oct 29, 2011 (4:43 pm)
I am happy to hear you say that USAA incentives will always be available. I'm counting on that and MBFinancial--and aware that they limit stacking of "certificates" beyond that. I was surprised that they thought the car would be delivered before the end of the year---I think that's wishful thinking! No worries---I've got lots of time left on my lease and it gives me time to save a little extra to cover my P2 splurge.
#1193 of 2217 Re: 2012 E350 Sedan [sp11]
Oct 29, 2011 (4:44 pm)
Yes, you're absolutely right---I saw that myself the other day! A beautiful option.
#1194 of 2217 2011 E350 Sport gas milage
Oct 30, 2011 (5:42 am)
Recently bought a close out 2011. Traded my 2010 E350. Gas mileage on the 2011 is improved. Just made a 200+ mi. freeway trip and averaged 31.5 65mph. My car is a late production model for 2011. That with only 900 mi. on it and running the A/C.
That and $9500 off made my day. Sure I would like a 2012 but don't think that I went wrong. Have P2 pkg.
#1195 of 2217 Re: 2011 E350 Sport gas milage [greasykid1]
Nov 01, 2011 (11:51 am)
Interesting comment about fuel economy. I have had a 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and now a 2012. The only difference between these cars, "engine wise" is the 2012 with the higher horsepower and improved fuel economy. Let me share with yhou my experiences regarding fuel economy.
Each car gave me a different average fuel economy. The best fuel economy I ever got on the E350 was on the 2010 (with the exception of the 2012). I got 29 mph on the highway at sustained speeds of 65 mph. City mpg was horrible, 15 - 16 mpg at best.
My 2011 was the worst. The best I could get was 26.5 mpg at sustained speeds of 65 mph in cruise control. No matter what gasoline I used, no matter what I did, I could not get more than 26.5 mpg.
My 2008 and 2009 got 27.5 average mpg at sustained highway speeds.
My 2012 currently gives me 32.2 mpg highway, but remember, it only has 345 miles on it and has not begun to break in yet. So I am expecting to get what my twin brother gets on his 2012 E coupe, 33.5 mpg. I know the coupe is a little lighter in weight, but still great economy.
So, in summary, it depends on the vehicle! In other words, your new 2011 gets 31.5, yet mine couldn't get more than 26.5. My service manager has a 2011 exactly like the one I had, and he gets 28.6 mpg. Each car delivers a different mpg average
Good luck with your new E350. If you enjoy it half as much as I did, you'll be in heaven.
The only reason I got the 2012 was for improved performance and economy. And so far, I'm getting exactly that.