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#85 of 202 C230 repair costs when out of warranty
May 16, 2005 (10:09 am)
I am curious if anyone can give me any advice on repair costs on Mercedes? I have a 2002 that is off warranty in Feb 2006, and wonder if they "see us coming" so to speak and charge a lot for repairs. I know when the dealership changed the oil, which was part of the Service A visit, on paper it showed $90 in charges. Is that something an owner can do themselves? I am debating about selling the car prior to the warranty expiring, if it will be expensive to work on. Any advice would be most appreciated.
#86 of 202 C220- No start after Mass Air Flow Sensor replacement
May 18, 2005 (7:24 pm)
Has anyone had any experience with this? I just bought a 1995 C220.
The previous owner was experiencing shutdown while driving. One
mechanic said there was a Mass Air Flow Sensor diagnostic code and
several oxygen sensor codes. Another mechanic said there was only a
Mass Air Flow Sensor diagnostic code. I bought the car and figured
out what kind of scan tool I needed, etc. Prior to getting the scan
tool I started the car just to run it a while so it would be easier
to start later. While idling there was significant vibration which
seemed to come from the right rear and the engine shut off. Wouldn't
I got the scan tool and when I ran it the Mass Air Flow Sensor
diagnostic code came up and this came up on the "freeze data": Fuel
System 1: CLSD.
I got a new Mass Air Flow Sensor and installed it. I erased the MAF
code and now everything checks out OK, no codes. When I go through
the "view data" feature I now get: Fuel System 1: OPEN.
It still won't start. I put a full charge on the battery to make
sure that wasn't the problem.
My question is this: I'm assuming that the fuel pump is programmed
to shut off if the Mass Air Flow Sensor problem isn't fixed within a
certain period of time and that this is what happened when I was
idling. Is that correct? Second part of question: is there something
I have to do in regard to the fuel pump once the Mass Air Flow
Sensor problem is taken care of? If no answer I'll probably have to
tow it in to a mechanic- I don't think I want to mess around with
measuring fuel pressure, etc.
#87 of 202 Maintenance questions for owners
Jul 02, 2005 (11:40 am)
A family member is considering an '05 C230 Sedan. This would be the first MB to be added to our "fleet". I'm aware that free maintenance is no longer part of the program. That means the routine maintenance will end up being done by me.
Have any of you done your own oil changes on your C-class? What type of oil and filter do you use? How many quarts does the 1.8 engine use? Is there an easy way to reset the service reminder after the oil change is done, or will I need a tool similar to BMW? Is there a factory service manual available?
I've reviewed what the dealer will do and charge for the "A" and "B" services and unless I'm missing something, I'd rather peform the routine service myself.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
#88 of 202 Re: Maintenance questions for owners [cornellpinoy]
Jul 04, 2005 (4:50 am)
You're right about the relative simplicity of the "work" done on most of the services up to 60k miles - with some exceptions, most of it is inspect and report [besides the oil changes].
No, there is no factory service manual available to the public. There is a relatively expensive subscription service for professionals, and as time passes, a service manual for a particular model is usually available on CD. MB is not making it easy for do-it-yourselfers.
Join MBCA without delay if your family buys this car. The answers to all your questions are easily available from fellow club members, some of whom are in the service business.
Oil changes are best accomplished using one of the widely available pump devices [e.g. TopSider] to suck it out from up top. Buy only MB oil filters, no matter what the cost. Use only approved synthetic oils - the list varies from one year to the next, but is in the manuals with a new car - it includes all of the usual suspects, such as MobilOne and Castrol Syntec. MB likes to have a big sump [good!] - our V6 holds 8 quarts - the 4 cyl is 6+, I think, but that's documented in the owner's manual.
I've rarely indulged in this kind of mechanical work, because I haven't the facilities to do it [condo garage] and because our '02 C240 has prepaid mtc. Also remember that there are things to be done that are time dependent, like the brake fluid every 2 years and the coolant every 3 years, but mostly it is a lot of inspections and top-ups that anyone with good lighting and some mechanical savvy would have no trouble with.
A final warning - during the warranty period, be prepared to meticulously document all mtc work on the car . If you give them an excuse to void the warranty, this can be a disastrously expensive way to try to save a few bucks. At least for the first four years, I would probably pay to have it done at the dealer - but then I don't think it's as expensive as people think. If you can't set aside $400-500 a year for the first four years [a very liberal figure, by the way], maybe this isn't the right car.
#89 of 202 Re: Maintenance questions for owners [jrct9454]
Jul 04, 2005 (4:57 am)
I appreciate your reply - very good points and although I'm a big MB fan, this is the first time I've heard of MBCA.
#90 of 202 please help c230 buyer
Jul 07, 2005 (7:06 pm)
I'm looking to buy a car in near future (4wks). i'd like to hav a sporty coupe. naturally mb c230 and bmw 3-series come to mind. i would like to hav ur opinion on what should i go for (other options definitely welcome). my budget is under $20k so definitely used cars i guess. i would like to know if c230 is worth it and what would b its monthly running costs? i hear c-class has a poor reputation when it comes to reliability and maintenance. also with most of the 2002 kompressor models running outta warranty soon, how would the maintenance charges work out after that?
also i hear mb is no longer producing c230 coupes? should i go 4 soon 2 b extinct model?
Thanks in advance.
#91 of 202 Re: Maintenance questions for owners [cornellpinoy]
Aug 05, 2005 (5:14 pm)
I have a 2005 C230 K Sedan
I am will do the A & B service myself and keep the records for the maintenance and warranty
5.8 liters of Mobile 1 0W-40 and NO OTHER oil. available online or from your MB parts, MB Fleece oil Filter and nothing else - not too xpnesive
Get a Fluid Extractor - about $300.00 to $500.00 available on line suck out the oil through the oil dipstick tube or jack up the car remove the underside plastic panel and drain it like any other car
Turn on the key but do not start the engine. Select the Service A due display on the dash computer and press the reset button (on left of instrument cluster) for 10-15 sec
No factory service manual for MBUSA until the warranty has run out - 5 years. Make friends with your registered MB mechanic or dealer parts manager and have him order you one
#92 of 202 Re: Maintenance questions for owners [mike1971]
Aug 06, 2005 (5:40 am)
Thanks for your reply. Exactly the info I was looking for.
#93 of 202 Gas for 1996 C280
Aug 07, 2005 (7:36 am)
New to this board--looking for educated advice. We own one of the last in-line 6 MB's--a 1996 C280--which we enjoy and much prefer over the newer V6s that we have also owned. I've heard that it is entirely possible to use regular gas with this engine without damage or diminished performance. Is this correct information? Must we continue to use premium gas with this engine? Many thanks for your advice.