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Re: Phoenix Motor Company Awful experience [zyndurai1] by oberpfallz
Sep 09, 2007 (1:18 am)
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Replying to: zyndurai1 (Aug 23, 2007 7:34 pm)

Hello Zyndurai1,
   I used to work for BMW as a product specialist and am now with Mercedes. Living in Germany, we don't seem to have too many problems with identity theft as that culture is comparatively honest as opposed to the states.
 
At BMW when the license was taken, (we didn't photocopy it but scanned it into the computer directly) it is for the sole purpose of entering you in a database called autobase which provides a couple of things. First, it's a record of your visit to the dealership so if you are interested in the car and do return to purchase, your info links you to a specific client advisor who is familiar with your needs. Secondly, it is usu. required (whether by dealership/state policy, varies)if you want to take the car for a test drive, it's a verification of a valid license. This is to cover the dealership in case of an unfortunate incident such as the car being wrecked/stolen on the test drive. In the state of georgia, if you are viewing real estate or even an apartment, a license or picture id is required and left secured during your "viewing" as a precautionary measure in case the realtor or landlord is murdered (apparently this has happened enough to necessitate the practice).
 
Your assigned client advisor should have explained that point to you. I can't imagine why he wouldn't have. While i cannot condone his unprofessionalism, let it be known that some of the "old school" sales people may react that way due to their feeling that "time is money" and if you're just kicking tires, you may not be seriously looking to buy which is your prerogative. Showing any sign of apprehension obviously set him off into his defensive mode of "this person thinks i'm the enemy" which is a common classification of people in sales.
 
AGAIN let me emphasize, i don't condone his attitude towards you. Most highline dealerships do not usu. pressure people but there is always the exception to the rule.
 
Ideally, he should have explained why the license data was necessary and to reassure you even show you the process. Secondly, if there is a product specialist around, you can always ask them for info such as a brochure and perhaps even a walk around (usu. there are open vehicles in the showroom) If the dealership allows, you can usu. talk to them without feeling they are trying to sell you.
 
I used to be a japanese car fan (honda crx's, nissan z32 tt's) but when i started driving BMW's, i've never looked back. In Germany, an E46 3series coupe was about a $5000 premium over a loaded Accord Ex with the difference being the safety features (DSC, side curtain airbags). Bear in mind that while the japanese cars are a good product, the German approach is somewhat different. German automanufacturers subscribe to the ideal of logic and performance with innovative tech, while the Japanese seem to focus on intuitiveness and reliability with gadgets galore. Neither approach is incorrect, just different schools of thought. The reason i love the Germany cars is, after 10 years of driving the autobahns, you appreciate the braking and driving dynamics of german cars vs. the japanese ones. German cars are engineered to run at triple digit speeds all day long (which might explain why they languish in the states.) and brake without issue. Compare an Acura TSX braking system to a stock bmw. (no i'm not going to count the brembos available on the z's and the wrx's)
 
Finally to address the points of dress or racial stereotyping, unfortunately, that is the world in which we live. People do perceive others using certain standards. But that in itself is subjective. In Europe, people do tend to be a bit dressier and while races are very distinct, cultures seem to be more appreciated for their uniqueness. (you should ask my iranian friend how he feels, living in the states). As a person of asian descent myself, it was a very rare occasion i ever felt that my race was a factor but moreso, attitude and how you present yourself.
 
Well i've gone on way too long. If there are any questions regarding Mercedes that i may assist you with, don't hesitate to ask. I've been off these forums for a while but looking to jump back in!
 
This also applies to others who may need some details about Mercedes or BMW's. I'm in the North Atlanta area.
 
Regards all,
 
Mit freundlichen Gruessen (to my fellow german speakers)
 
Greg (oberpfallz on the boards)
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Re: Phoenix Motor Company Awful experience [zyndurai1] by vinnyny
Sep 11, 2007 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: zyndurai1 (Aug 23, 2007 7:34 pm)

I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience, but it probably had little to do with your race. We've all had bad experiences with dealerships, but when it comes to color, it's the color of your money that matters--not your skin.
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Re: Phoenix Motor Company Awful experience [zyndurai1] by mogul2
Sep 22, 2007 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: zyndurai1 (Aug 23, 2007 7:34 pm)

You are simply paranoid and uninformed. It is illegal to run a credit check without your permission. I highly doubt any new car dealership would run credit check without your consent. They will ask for your initials/signature or if it is over the phone, they will read the terms and ask if you agree to it or not. You could have politely asked if they were going to run a credit check or not.
 
If you were selling your $35000 car, I bet you won't simply hand over the keys to a potential buyer for a test drive. Put yourself in the salesman position and think about how you would feel if the other party is suspecting your motives from the get go for no reason.
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Re: Phoenix Motor Company Awful experience [mogul2] by vinnyny
Sep 22, 2007 (3:03 pm)
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Replying to: mogul2 (Sep 22, 2007 7:50 am)

Dealers try some crazy things to get your information...while trying to buy a used car for my daughter three years ago the dealer insisted that I allow them to do a credit check EVEN THOUGH I WAS PAYING CASH. If I had been writing a check or presenting a cashier's check, I could understand. However, I was ready to walk across the street to my bank and return with $10K cash. They insisted it was a new requirement because of 9/11...I've bought at least five cars since then and never been asked for a credit check (except when I was financing through them).
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Re: Phoenix Motor Company Awful experience [vinnyny] by mogul2
Sep 23, 2007 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Sep 22, 2007 3:03 pm)

I agree, some used car dealers adopt shady practices. If you notice my post, I clearly mentioned "new car dealership" - "I highly doubt any new car dealership would run credit check without your consent".
Having said that, the sleazy used car dealer that you mentioned did let you know about the credit check before he actually ran it. I agree it is unnecessary to check credit when paying cash but the point is you will be made aware of before they actually check it.
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Re: Phoenix Motor Company Awful experience [mogul2] by vinnyny
Sep 23, 2007 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: mogul2 (Sep 23, 2007 4:34 pm)

It was actually the used car section of a new car dealer, but that's all irrelevant. They had no choice but to let me know because I refused to give them my SS number. I'd be willing to bet that in states that have SS#s on the driver's license that they do run checks before telling customers. Law or no law...
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Re: Phoenix Motor Company Awful experience [oberpfallz] by culliganblue
Sep 24, 2007 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: oberpfallz (Sep 09, 2007 1:18 am)

Hello- I am looking for information comparing the Mercedes C-Class Model 230 Vs. 300, any reviews on car performance and price are welcome (website links, personal experience). The analysis done with european market in mind would be appreciated, as the car may be purchased from Europe. Thank you!!
email: hindous06hotmail.com
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Sep 27, 2007 (12:37 pm)
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are people paying MSRP for 2008 c300? by mhalliday
Sep 28, 2007 (12:48 pm)
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I am shopping for one of these in USa and as noted here, there are not really any great deals on them, as they seem to be selling. But are people really paying full MSRP for the? I HATE the process of buyinhg a car...i ALWAYS feel like i got ripped off somehow. I think the C300 is proiced faily, but am i being a real schmuck if I pay sticker price?
 
MIke
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Re: are people paying MSRP for 2008 c300? [mhalliday] by casper1022
Sep 29, 2007 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: mhalliday (Sep 28, 2007 12:48 pm)

Yes, its true majority of the dealers I have dealt with in my area are selling their new 2008 C class for MSRP. It was difficult to get any good deals on this particular vehicle unless you are like me, I researched and dealt with more than 3-4 dealers. My experience buying a car has been stressful not fun, thats all what I can say. Best of luck and hope you get a good deal..I suggest you do some research on car buying tips to be ready with your ammunition buying any vehicle.

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