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Saab 9-3, Coupe, Convertible
#182 of 533 RE: Take the plunge
Oct 07, 2001 (10:57 pm)
Hey dmf000...You are correct the base models have been discontinued and the 2dr hatchback is only available as the viggen for 2002. The 4dr SE has be decontented and the price has been lowered. Some standard items for 2001 are options on the SE for 2002...still after adding all the options back on the list price on my loaded SE will be $2555 lower for 2002. I am guessing the factory to dealer incentives will be lowered because of this. If you want a 2dr you have to get a 2001. I originally wanted a 2dr hatchback (none were available at the time) but test drove both the base and SE models..SE has better handling, more horsepower and more options.. I would at least test drive the SE before you buy if you can afford the additional money.
As for the gas cap...it is locked when the doors are locked...but opens along with the doors. An armrest can be ordered for the dealer or Saab catalog online...Two are available...get the sliding armrest....the other one is useless..I know I bought that one first. The price of $22700 seems fair ..you may even be able to get the dealer to go lower on your own. Let me know if you do decide to take the plunge and feel free to ask any more questions
#183 of 533 Thanks, snaab93se1
Oct 08, 2001 (5:15 am)
Very helpful, thanks for the quick response. Is the sliding armrest difficult to install?
#184 of 533 dmf000 re :sliding armrest
Oct 08, 2001 (11:09 am)
The sliding armrest is $85 and available only in grey or beige leather. Took me about 1 minute to install...don't pay the dealer a penny for installation....just need to pull off the cupholder cover...pull at one of the hinges while sitting in the back seat and its off. Just as easy to install the new one...any other questions just ask
#185 of 533 Echocharle - - Sticky throttle cable
Oct 10, 2001 (11:32 am)
Sorry for the delay...was on vacation.
I believe that there's a TSB for reconfiguring the clutch cable linkage, as some binding is a known problem on some 199x years...you should be under warranty, so I'd have the dealer check it out.
The bad news is that it sounds like the same problem I've had (twice). But the good news is that it appears that you can make it go away by re-lubing your system, so I would presume that you could choose to do isolated rennovations so as to narrow down just which part of the linkage is the problem (so that future re-lubes are more focused & faster).
Something else you can try is to sit in one in the showroom floor and compare its pedal push as a way to define "normal". Its not foolproof, but its easy, fast & free. If there's a big difference, speak up and get someone to look at it...and clarify ahead of time that you don't accept any claim that its a "wear item" that is only warrantied for a single year: wear items are high mortality items like brake pads and wiper blades, not stuff like shift linkages and bushings.
#186 of 533 Msg#164 - - jonw2
Oct 10, 2001 (11:55 am)
Sorry for the delayed response...
Re: Saab reliability - - I agree that in the 1990s Saab reliability was spotty, as per Consumer's Reports (CU), but at the time of my purchase, the problem in the New Gen 900 model hadn't really cropped up yet. I recall reviewing CU and they didn't look that "bad" or "different" from other Euro-makes. Today, though, the trend for those years is pretty obvious. Oh well.
Re: gearbox feel & throws - - - Yeah, its "imprecise". Virtually every time I'd put my Saab in for service when it was under warranty, I'd put poor shifting on the checklist. A good mechanic who is conciencious about it can do a pretty good job to minimize its aggravating aspects and make it tolerable. But it will never be slick.
Overall, I'm afraid that slick, well-engineered solid gearbox linkages are a victim of the demands of the economics of manufacturing. Cable-based shifters are far cheaper to design, install & adjust and are thus all too common today.
Re: dumping lemons - - - So how much you going to offer me for my wonderful car?
I do have to admit that I'm a bit aggravated that I am going to have to dump this car, roughly 3 years and 50K miles earlier than what I'd normally consider to be acceptable. Its running fine (although it needs YA muffler), but I simply don't feel that I can completely trust it. BTW, is anyone interested in four mounted snow tires?
Re: Subaru WRX? - - - I saw it at the NYC car show this spring and I'm thinking about thinking about it. I used to drive a Subaru (a "FF-1G") many years ago, and while I haven't tried any of them recently, the general trend I've seen through coworkers and rental cars is that Japanese auto's still often mimic US cars in their control system rates and suspension setups, which I personally loathe. I believe that AutoWeek reported that the WRX has been configured significantly "softer" for the US market than its ROW configuration, which I feel is a shame (dammit, at least offer the tight setup as a BTO option!). nevertheless, I figure I'll be stopping in the local dealer for a look-over and test drive, if for no other reason than to complain to them that its not tight enough
#187 of 533 Just My Two Cents
Oct 11, 2001 (3:06 pm)
Bought a base 9-3, auto, w/ everything you can get on the base in May. Now have 9000 miles on it which is split probably 50/50 between city driving and highway driving. And when I say city, I am talking D.C.- anyone who has ever driven in D.C. will know just how bad the roads are and how hard they are on your car. Not a problem yet. Everything still works great, car feels as tight as when new, and no squeeks or rattles. There is only one bump in the whole city that causes the CD player to skip, which is pretty impressive. Only down side is the stereo is a little weak, although I noticed this after test drive. Maybe I'll ask Santa for an upgrade!
I have to say I no longer have car envy. Not only is it a car that turns heads (why couldn't I have had this when I was 18 and single) but it is immensly practical with the huge trunk/hatchback. And we have had no problems with three adults on long (4 hours plus) trips and five on shorter jaunts (1 hour or so). Best part of all is that at the end of long trips I feel utterly fresh- almost as good as when I left. The car is a dream to drive- the seats are just the best seats my rear has ever had the pleasure to grace, and the acceleration is excellent. I actually use the speed warning feature because I find myself easily doing 85-90 on Route 95 without knowing it. If you need to pass some idiot doing 65 in the fast lane you are around them in a matter of seconds. This, combined with the pinpoint steering, is to me the most important safety feature on the car. After all, best safety feature is being able to avoid an accident.
To anyone who has read prior posts about problems and is scared- I've had a great experience so far, although I do follow the maintenance schedule. Why not when the dealer gives you a loaner car for anyhting that will take more than an hour. If looking to buy in DC area, check out International Saab in Falls Church- very happpy with them. I feel like I own something special the way I'm treated there.
Oct 11, 2001 (3:29 pm)
I was close to getting a Saab, but was scared off from all the horrors stories re reliability.
#189 of 533 Edmund's, attention please
Oct 12, 2001 (6:09 am)
Can we get the 2002 Saab 9-3SE data posted in the "New" section? The 2002s are in stock, and it'd certainly be a help to have invoice and other data before the 0% financing ends October 31... I'd never want to buy a car without being armed with Edmund's info.
#190 of 533 Driver side problem
Oct 12, 2001 (2:45 pm)
Tosay, when I got out of my 2001 SE, I heard a "snap" under the seat. After looking around, I realized that the plastic memory seat piece was loose????????? Wasn't able to "snap it back!" It is not hanging, just loose? happen to anyone else?
P.S.- Just broke 2200 miles.Otherwise, besides the brakes squeaking in reverse and a "ticking sound" the car is great!!!!!!!!!!!
Dealer said that they will take care of the ticking and brakes at 10k checkup
Oct 12, 2001 (11:16 pm)
I have a wrx and read the post about the snow tires. I am fully aware that this post does not allow for selling or advertising cars/merchandise, but is there any way i could exchange info about the snow tires without getting Pat? into a pickle. I live in nj and would be interested.