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#556 of 574 Re: Previous Nissan owner, new Accord owner [ebenrick]
by y2za
Jul 14, 2005 (7:21 am)
No, why not? -it is simply a business transaction - not a friendship, not a partnership, - just simply business.
I have owned a 2001 Accord 4 cylinder (mine), 2002 CRV (wife), 2002 Maxima (mine) 2004 Civic (mine) and now have traded in the civic for a 2005 SE Maxima.
Before getting rid of the civic - yes, i looked at the 2005 Accord EX V6 - the lease payments were pretty much equal to the maxima.
For me - the maxima was a better fit. Remember, i have owned an accord and maxima before this purchase. Yes, the interior design/function is better in the accord. BUT - i happen to like the unique look to the maxima, so for me the exterior design and the fact that there are not so many of them around was more important that the better interior design/feel or whatever you want to call it of the accord.
I happen to really like the sky view, i happen to like the look of "4" exhaust vents, i happen to really like having 18 inch wheels, i happen to like the drive of the SE over the drive of the accord, i happen to like the low growl of the engine especially when flooring it. So for this guy - it was a personal choice - no regrets here. Especially when i pull up next to the 10th accord i have seen on the road that day - way too bland and way too many of them.
My 2002 was great! Despite having the same engine, there seems to be less torque steer in the 2005 (of which i think is a highly overated problem), the 2005 seems to have more power throughout any range of speed. I do prefer the interior layout in the 2002 though. I kept it for 20000 miles and never hand any problems.
#557 of 574 Re: Accord vs. Maxima vs. TL? [w900l]
by stryker
Jul 19, 2005 (12:02 pm)
who ever is comparing the accord to the maxima for sure dont know about cars.
Hello Accord vs Maxima noooo way jose not even in the same class .
The TL is a superior car in every way compare to the Maxima duh
nissan, honda and toyota make the best cars and believe me i know what i am talking about. i have had all three and i also had a american car and trust me, any choice u make it will be better than any of this over rated american cars.
btw everyoneeeee who has sit inside a honda a nissan knows the honda has more room. that is just a fact. speed power and all that etc.... are not facts because alot has to do with the driver and the personal opinion everyone has diff taste.
#558 of 574 VQ3.0 vs. VQ3.5 (2000 vs. 2002)
by maxsman
Jan 19, 2006 (11:16 pm)
Hello Everyone!!
I am new to the forum...and let me first say what a great and informative forum it is!!
I am getting ready to purchase a used max in the spring....Happy to announce I'm finally upgrading from my old reliable Kcar.... let me just say after test driving a 2000 gle...it seemed like a veritable ROCKET SHIP compared to my K!!
So I'm wondering how much better the newer max with the bigger engine is??? (I haven't driven one)The 2002 with the 3.5 I read has a larger turning circle and a stiffer ride than the max's before it?) The VQ 3.0 version is supposedly bullet proof. Will the VQ 3.5 be bullet proof as well?? I will have this next car for a while so I want to be sure I make the right decision. Is it worth the extra few thousand $$ for the newer max??
#559 of 574 Re: VQ3.0 vs. VQ3.5 (2000 vs. 2002) [maxsman]
by thegraduate
Jan 20, 2006 (12:59 pm)
maxsman,
The difference in horsepower is 33 between the two engine (222 hp vs 255 hp for the 2002). Nissan is relying on this 3.5 to power the vast majority of its cars and trucks.
Nissan 350Z
Altima 3.5
Maxima
Murano
Quest
Infiniti M35, G35 coupe and sedan
From what I have read (and I subscribe to Car and Driver, Motor Trend, and the like) they have not mentioned problems with engine reliability. No one area sticks out in my memory as being a problem (except interior quality, which won't change really). I drive a car with 166 hp, and coming from 130 hp, it feels MUCH faster, so I would imagine the 222 hp should be plenty ample for you. But, it comes down to which you personally prefer. You won't feel much of a difference around town, but when flooring it at 75mph, you might be able to tell between the two.
Good luck with your purchase, sir!
thegrad
#560 of 574 Re: VQ3.0 vs. VQ3.5 (2000 vs. 2002) [maxsman]
by suydam
Jan 20, 2006 (4:30 pm)
I have a 2001 GLE. I have always found it to have plenty of power. It gets pretty good gas mileage too. I wondered if gas mileage suffered somewhat in the years after 2002. Anyway, it would come down to your preference. For me the 2001 is terrific.
#561 of 574 Re: VQ3.0 vs. VQ3.5 (2000 vs. 2002) [suydam]
by kennyg5
Jan 21, 2006 (9:18 am)
I don't have a 2001 Max, but do have a 97 and an 03. The mpg on the 97 is much better. The 03 is very thirsty due to its much bigger engine,
but you know the hp is there if you need to pass cars on the highway.
#562 of 574 Re: VQ3.0 vs. VQ3.5 (2000 vs. 2002) [kennyg5]
by midnightcowboy
Jan 24, 2006 (12:09 pm)
I looked at a Altima SE-R with the 260 HP V6 3.5 liter engine. But the Nissan 3.5L is so so thirsty.
I went with an Accord V6 6-speed and easily get 30-32 on the highway. No way you can actually get that mileage in a Maxima and the v6 Accord also has plenty of passing power.
Double sixes,
MidCow
#563 of 574 Re: VQ3.0 vs. VQ3.5 (2000 vs. 2002) [maxsman]
by beanctr
Jan 30, 2006 (8:25 pm)
I have a 02 Max SE 6 Speed with the 3.5 engine. It currently has provided me 84,000 trouble free miles. As to mileage, I average 25 to 26 MPG in mostly highway driving. Great car!
#564 of 574 Comparing Apples & Orages
by leirex
Jan 31, 2006 (12:37 pm)
After I read most of the posts so far for several days, it might have been ok to compare the Maxima and the Accord before. After Nissan designed the new Maxima in 2004, as some assiduously pointed out it is like comparing oranges with apples. In a nutshell, the Maxima is NOT in the same league as the Accord. Two different classes.
Actually, about a week and a half ago, I traded my 03 Accord EX V6 in for the 06 Maxima SL with Driver's Preferred Package. When I was in the market, I was comparing the Maxima SL with the Toyota Avalon Touring, the Acura TL and the Infiniti G35, which are in the same class. I ended up with the Maxima SL for several reasons but could have gone for either the G35 or the TL for just about the same price (before $1500 rebate for the Maxima). In my opinion, this forum is not even as meaningful as it used to be because the two cars are in two different class since 2004. I can definitely tell you the two cars are in completely different class as a previous Accord owner (I have driven the Accord for 3 years with 63000 miles by the way).
To add to the infamous steer torque, I also think it is overstated as I did not feel it at all for the last 1000 miles. I never drove it hard anyway.
I stayed away from the Avalon due to quite a few reported transmission problems which Toyota dealers claim are computer controlled and they cannot do much about it. I read about several close calls because of this transmission problem. Also, it costs much more than the Maxima SL with less features. Some options are listed as options but come as standard from factory to elevate price. I do not like their marketing strategy. It is like fooling customers with low base price but high selling price with standard options from factory which are not options any more.
I agree that my 03 Accord EX V6 had better interior in overall quality and layout to my liking than in the Maxima SL. I do not understand why the Maxima SL (Sport Luxury ?) does not have the same kind of interior quality at least as the Murano. The Murano has much better interior in material quality and feel. Other than that, only other complaint which I learned to have is the wide turning radius. Then again, the Acura TL also has pretty close turing radius. So far so good. By the way, the Accord reliabilty is proven for 3 years while I was driving it with no single problem other than the factory recall regarding transmission issue, which I already forgot about. Let me see how reliable my new Maxima SL will be. I wonder if I want to buy an extended warranty for the sophisticated electronic controls.
#565 of 574 Re: Comparing Apples & Orages [leirex]
by urbancar
Sep 25, 2006 (3:36 pm)
"I don't understand why the Maxima SL..does not have the same kind of interior quality at least as the Murano..."
Now it does, and competes very well with Honda, Toyota, etc. and is really more in Acura or Passat territory in terms of interior feel, especially in the SL version.
The 06 version gives no sense of the new interior, which was changed very significantly in the 07 version. The 07 was, by most accounts, redesigned specifically to address the type of issue you raised (owners who loved the Maxima as drivetrain, but were disappointed by cheap interiors).
The 07 is far from cheap looking, especially in the SL, which has a very impressive interior (especially in leather). In fact, you can see a lot of the "old school" Maxima types whining that the Max has now gone "too luxury."
The seats are redesigned, as are all interior accents (e.g. real aluminum on guages, all metal door lock trims, higher grade plastics elsewhere).
If I sound like I drank the Koolaid, I have, to a certain extent. I bought an 07 and have had nothing but great feelings from the car. My German car friends are also very impressed by the car in general, including the new interior, to the point where they comment that the Maxima has "gone German."
Also, torque steer and turning radius issues are to my own estimation (and comments from most reviewers) substantially improved in the 07 iteration. And I do drive the car aggressively from time to time...