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You are in the Nissan Maxima
What is this discussion about?
Nissan Maxima, Honda Accord, Sedan
Mar 18, 2003 (6:07 am)
A 1997 Maxima was a totally different car from what the Maxima is today. Judging a whole company on one bad car experience is a little hasty. There is a lot more to the Maxima than just the engine...it is a more engaging car to drive than Camry or Accord.
I know that dark color cars are harder to take care of than lighter ones. I've had other black cars before and so far the Maxima's paint job has been the worst I've seen. Nissan does well with light colors, sterling mist is a nice one, I should have gone that route.
#362 of 574 dklanecky
Mar 18, 2003 (6:32 am)
Wow...you must be very luck not having much paint chips. I already have about 10 pebble size chips on my hood already and I have 20k miles on my 03.
It would be nice is nissan had thicker paint on their cars. My dad has a S430 and it feels like the paint for that car is twice as thick as on the maxima. I think even accord's paint is thicker then the maxima.
Mar 18, 2003 (6:59 am)
Premium fuel is not required for the max, it is recommended for optimal performance. Until a few weeks ago, I always ran premium in my 02 SE, but have recently run regular. As expected, improved gas mileage, though performance is compromised.
Yes, the paint quality is quite poor...less than a year and the majestic blue paint is already chipping on hood.
As for pricing on the 04 max...Was at the local auto show this past weekend and sat in an SE 6 speed w/nav...stickered for 31.9. Like with any new model, let the novelty wear off and there will be better deals in the future.
I owned an Accord SE back in 97, bought new. It had a lot of problems. No manufacturer is exempt from producing lemons.
Mar 18, 2003 (8:23 am)
I was using premium in my Maxima and then the prices went up so I went to regular and I felt the difference. Right now I don't let my tank go below half and I alternate between premium and mid-grade. I know people say things about the cost of gas and the Max is not as fuel efficient than the Accord, but I would not trade my Maxima. If I could afford an '04 Maxima, I would still keep this one.
Mar 18, 2003 (9:11 am)
I have tried all fuel grades with my 2k Maxima and have settled on using mid-grade. Ofcourse, the car performs much better with premium, but premium has gotten too expensive. You can use low grade, but you do take a huge step back in performance. As others have pointed out, I notice the lack of power when using regular. Mid-grade is a nice compromise between economy and performance.
#366 of 574 Speaking about expensive fuel....
Mar 18, 2003 (1:07 pm)
Talking about expensive gas prices? Just filled my max up this morning. $34.50 That's FREAKY. We better take over those oil fields in iraq. I'll be very very mad if sadam decides to blow them up. A freakier thing is that I probably had half more gallon to go.
Now i'm going to start admiring those honda/toyota hybrid cars and POINT and roll on the floor laughing at the people that drive Tahoes, Suburbans, Land cruisers. HA HA HA. lol.
Mar 18, 2003 (1:21 pm)
I feel your pain. And I also get a kick out of the huge mammoth SUV owners when I seem them at the pump.
#368 of 574 Buy a plane
Mar 18, 2003 (8:19 pm)
History showed that governments and companies don't change their policies for decades. From my point of view the 1997 Maxima I owned was not a different car from what the Maxima is today. I don't care they made them more powerful. What matters to me is the feeling of perfection. The feeling I had with my 1994 and 2001 Accords was that the car was glued to ground at any speed. Driving my Maxima at high speed I felt disconnected, like I was on a plane almost taking off. Or perhaps this is what you call "engaging car to drive". Better buy a small plane. It's certainly more powerful than your Maxima and it really takes off !
Seriously, you cannot compare the Accord's double wishbone front wheels suspension with Maxima's cheap McPherson struts. You cannot compare Accord's rear independent suspension with Maxima's broom stick who connects the rear wheels. Why put a great V6 on that structure I can't understand. Obviously it takes off !
By the way, talking about perfection, can one of the new manual transmission Maxima owners try to drive it in the 1st gear and oscillate around 1500 RPM. I tried this in 2001 when I was shopping for a Maxima or Accord and it was jumping back and forth like somebody was rear ending me. I am curious if they fixed it. Nissan called it the fuel-cut problem and the lady dealer explained to me that it's done on purpose to save gas. I tried the Accord and it didn't jump like that. It's not thirsty though. About the stick, does it feel like connected to the gear box with some kind of elastics ? And the finger moving inside the gear box (to switch gears) feels like a screwdriver moving inside a pile of rocks ?
The Accord inherited anything Honda ever learned at the car races they fought. Except the engine block. Finally out discussion is useless. Take the VQ engine block and put it in an Accord and you get the best car. If not learn to live with mediocrity. Sooner or later we all have to learn it.
#369 of 574 Octane Rating
Mar 18, 2003 (9:47 pm)
The Maxima's engine is designed to run on Unleaded Premium (91 octane). The instruction manual (for 02 Maxima) states if unleaded premium is not available, unleaded regular can be used. Granted, the instruction manual also states that unleaded premium should be used for maximum performance. Weighing these two comments and taking into account some of you have stated that you are currently using unleaded regular, I see no problem with this for the short term. However, I question whether doing this over the long term is good for the engine. Using lower octane gas will cause the engine to retard the timing to avoid knocking. I have heard (from a mechanic) that this is not good for the engine if it is having to do this on a frequent basis. Any thoughts?
Mar 19, 2003 (6:48 am)
"History showed that governments and companies don't change their policies for decades. From my point of view the 1997 Maxima I owned was not a different car from what the Maxima is today"
You are wrong, the 1997 was a totally different car than the current Maxima, and the company has gone through a total overhaul in the ealry 2000's.
Let's talk about tranmissions, Honda can't seem to build a good automatic transmission. My old '89 Civic jerked you abruptly when the car shifted between first and second. I test drove a 2000 Accord auto when I was shopping for my next car and Honda still has not fixed the problem. Honda makes a good stick shift, but what's the use, since you can't get it on a V6 sedan. Your only choice is Nissan here. BTW...the 2004 Maxima uses a close ratio 6 speed tranny (taken from the 350Z), that you can't even get on an Accord sedan.
Let's talk suspensions. Sure, the Accord suspension is more sophisticated, more expensive. But it is tuned for "boredom", the ride totally aliantes the driver from an enjoyable driving experience. I don't care how much the suspension costs, the suspension tunning on the Maxima is just head over heels more enjoyable to drive than a Camry or Accord. Anyway...all of suspension talk is moot since the 2004 Maxima comes with a fully independent suspension.