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#295 of 2801 Questions to Bill and "those in the know"
by christchurch
Jun 02, 2001 (3:36 pm)
Thanks Bill, for the advice on the 1999 XJL.
This car appears to be immaculate.
It is an off - lease vehicle and it seems that the paint, body and interior is first class all the way. The maintance records are all there and the "owner" was scrupulas.
How does the mileage sound to you?
Since it is from a private dealer it will not have had the "select edition" certified treatment. So what would "a new owner" have to expect to repair or have checked right "out of the gate"?
Do you like this car and would you consider it an excellent buy if it can be "picked up" at "the right price"?
I will let you know more after my friend has a chance to check the mechanics, but an answer to the above questions would be helpful.
One further but different question.
What is your opinion of the S Type.
What could you expect to pick one up for.. both engine configurations, 6 and 8 ?
What mileage and price would you look for in a 2000 model?
Thanks, again for your continuing good advice!
A proud member of the Jaguar family!
christchurch
#296 of 2801 Audio Stuff (thanks Bill)
by csmason1
Jun 03, 2001 (9:33 am)
I'll look into replacing the spkrs instead of putting my big amp and box in the trunk.
One question: I found an unattached plug yesterday, just above the battery and to the right. Looking at the connection plug, it has two thin sockets running side-by-side, then centered below those sockets another similar-looking socket. I think this is the CD changer connection, as it seems that's the only loose plug near the battery as Bill mentioned; if anyone knows for sure (has added a changer), I'd appreciate the help.
Also, thanks Bill for the good link on "how to spot paintwork" in msg. 282.
Craig
93 XJ6 81K
Jun 03, 2001 (9:34 am)
No, this is obviously not nrmal and it's not something that I have heard of before. Also, your car has a very complex electronic engine management system that should be storing codes when this stuff happens.
What did the dealer say? Also, what dealer are you taking it to? There's 2 in Atlanta... the one with the Italian name is not the one to go to from what I understand.
Bill
Jun 03, 2001 (9:37 am)
Hmmm...
That no sound normal either. Possible they have somekind of aluminum caps on them. Maybe the PO (Previous owner) lost a couple... OEM Jag ones are VERY expensive.. Like $8 a piece. Not a lot of cash but a lot for lugnuts. If they are coverings they ought to just pop off
Wire wheels? Not on your life! I'd sooner put a chevy small block in the car and I'm not about to do that! yick....
Bill
Jun 03, 2001 (9:52 am)
If the car is clean and free of body paintwork... Then I'd say go for it. 30K miles is OK for a 99. Not low, not that high.
But for a car with 20K you'll pay more.. so its' a toss-up. And this car is Topaz/Oatmeal. It's THE Color combo.
Is it a good buy? Well original MSRP was $60,330 with destination... plus options.. Cars typically sold for about.. ohh... $56K or so...
So to save over $20,000 it is a good buy.
Right out of the gate it won't need much. Tranny and diff are sealed for life, plugs need it at 100K, coolant is at 50K or 60K.. I'd guess that if it doesnt need them now that the tires, if original, are nearing the end of the road. Vor Z rated only. I suggest Pirelli P6000 Sport Veloces as replacements. Hmm... maybe brake pads... oil change? Icant think of much.
As far as S-types go.. Right now I'm buying clean 00 3.0s (I like to buy em with around 17K on the clock, mainly ex-Budget Rent-A-Car units. The 6-8K mile cars go for too much, and even though they're now really 2 years old, I dont like 1 model year old cars with 25K on them)...
Hmm.. if it's a good color I'm paying $30,500-31Kish...$29K or so for a "weak" color like BRG or Black.
On the 4.0s, they also hold residuals like the 3.0s... For, again, 15K or so mile 00s I'm paying about $33-34K for nice ones in a good color. But a loaded one with Deluxe Communication..Sport Package..etc.. In Say, Silver, Sapphire, etc.. that's a $35-36K car if the right buyers are there.
IMO, The 4.0 is the way to go. Similar economy and a real stormer with that engine.
Bear in mind that that 3.0 that I'm paying $31K for had a $39K or so original invoice. Thats not bad at all. Wholesale on the car has dropped $8K in almost 2 years. That's up there with a Lexus. 2000 Lexus GS300s, which invoiced at about $36K are doing $30K or so, a $6K loss and those GSs are the kings of resale. Jaguars are known for having terrible resale value, so the cars are firming up quite a bit. In 98, a 97 Vanden Plas was worth $38K or so wholesale..although they would settle down after the initial drop.
Always glad to help!
Bill
Jun 03, 2001 (9:53 am)
Glad the article helped!
I'll take a pic of the plug and post it...
Bill
#301 of 2801 Audio Stuff (thanks Bill)
by csmason1
Jun 03, 2001 (10:51 am)
I'll look into replacing the spkrs instead of putting my big amp and box in the trunk.
One question: I found an unattached plug yesterday, just above the battery and to the right. Looking at the connection plug, it has two thin sockets running side-by-side, then centered below those sockets another similar-looking socket. I think this is the CD changer connection, as it seems that's the only loose plug near the battery as Bill mentioned; if anyone knows for sure (has added a changer), I'd appreciate the help.
Also, thanks Bill for the good link on "how to spot paintwork" in msg. 282.
Craig
93 XJ6 81K
#302 of 2801 Engine Stalling (Bill -Brentwoodvolvo)
by lesliejoy
Jun 03, 2001 (7:10 pm)
Bill, you may have never heard of this problem, but Jaguar has. I contacted a few individuals who had posted on other boards. Seems this problem is hard to diagnose. One person ended up trading it in for a Lexus. Two others are still bringing their cars back after they were told it was fixed. Has to do with the AJ26 engine. Jaguar changed to AJ27. A relay or sensor may be the cause. Problem is finding it. In the meantime....
#303 of 2801 Engine Stalling (to Bill)
by lesliejoy
Jun 03, 2001 (7:11 pm)
Forgot to tell you that I bring the car to Nalley Jaguar (used to be Troncalli - that Italian name!)
Jun 03, 2001 (7:16 pm)
I leased a "98" XJ8 yesterday 6/2/2001 from a Used Car dealer in Illinois. They had 10 to choose from and I bought a Sapphire one with Ivory interior with 31,000 miles on it. The body has (had) a few minor paint blemishes, nothing major.
Here is the nightmare; I live in Indiana where we do not have front license plates. While I was in sighing the papers, they were "cleaning buffing and waxing" my new car. When I got home I noticed that they mounted a cheap, plastic, cracked, "license plate mounting bracket" and put a advetising plate in it. Upon closer examination and removal I found that they drilled right through my bumper a couple of times on each side of the plate bracket to get this plate bracket to to stay attached (for the mean time) to my bumper. I'm just sick about it. I love the car but my initial reaction was take it back on Monday. My wife wants to keep it and so do I. The sale/lease price was $28,000.00 is that a good price?
WHERE CAN I FIND A QUALITY LICENSE PLAT MOUNTING BRACKET? INTERNET? DO JAGUAR DEALERS HAVE THEM? ABOUT HOW MUCH?
CAN A BODY MAN FILL THE HOLES IN THE PLASTIC? IF SO, WHAT SHOULD THAT COST? Please help us with info, we want to keep this car. Feel free to e-mail me at djspensions
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