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#2730 of 2773 Re: Fuel Grade [euphonium] by gregg_vw Sep 17, 2008 (12:43 pm)
Replying to: euphonium (Sep 17, 2008 11:58 am) It won't "rattle" and it is not inferior fuel. Regular grade is lower octane and therefore takes less energy to ignite. On older cars which required higher octane, you would get knock (and possibly serious damage) with the pre-ignition of lower octane. Current engines adjust to the octane they are fed. Those that are set up to use premium obtain their hp and mpg ratings using it. Use a lower octane and you will likely have less hp and slightly less mpg. That is the main reason it makes little sense to use it. You see no savings, and you have less power (which protects the engine from pre-ignition).   Supercharged engines are an exception, as the electronics may not be able to adequately adjust to an octane change under more extreme conditions.   On the other hand, most cars that take regular fuel are not set up to gain hp from using premium. Using premium when your vehicle calls for regular may net you less mpg, rendering premium the "inferior" fuel in that case. Replies to this message: euphonium (Sep 19, 2008 3:00 pm) gregg_vw (Sep 22, 2008 5:05 am) bhill2 (Sep 23, 2008 12:00 pm) gregg_vw (Sep 23, 2008 12:33 pm)
#2731 of 2773 Re: Fuel Grade [gregg_vw] by euphonium Sep 19, 2008 (3:00 pm)
Replying to: gregg_vw (Sep 17, 2008 12:43 pm) 95 Thunderbird 4.6 V8 111000 miles   94 Lincoln Twn Car 4.6 141000 miles   Each runs better and quieter using Mid Grade or 89 Octane. My source for fuel does not inclue Ethenal either. Replies to this message: gregg_vw (Sep 22, 2008 5:05 am)
#2732 of 2773 Re: Fuel Grade [euphonium] by gregg_vw Sep 22, 2008 (5:05 am)
Replying to: euphonium (Sep 19, 2008 3:00 pm) They probably do. Early 90s engines weren't as efficient at adjusting to octane changes.   You are fortunate BTW because here in WI it seems that all mid-grade gas has ethanol in it. Consequently, I avoid mid-grade.
#2733 of 2773 Re: Fuel Grade [gregg_vw] by bhill2 Sep 23, 2008 (12:00 pm)
Replying to: gregg_vw (Sep 17, 2008 12:43 pm) You are undoubtedly correct that the engine will not be damaged by using regular fuel. But as hofiii noted, Jaguar says that premium fuel is 'required' which, in my mind, means that if you use regular you deserve what you get. Like hofiii, I go with premium; it is a Jag after all. Replies to this message: gregg_vw (Sep 23, 2008 12:33 pm)
#2734 of 2773 Re: Fuel Grade [bhill2] by gregg_vw Sep 23, 2008 (12:33 pm)
Replying to: bhill2 (Sep 23, 2008 12:00 pm) Agreed. Why would anyone want to put regular in it? It is just good to know that if you have to use it for some reason, based on lack of available premium, fueling up along the side of the road, etc., you can do it without harming your Jag.
#2735 of 2773 by m4d_cow Oct 12, 2008 (12:28 am)
Can anyone tell me how much should I spend on an 06 CPO XJR? A dealer's listing it for "special price" $31060. Great deal or theres room for negotiation? Any significant problems w/ this model year I should be aware of? Thanks Replies to this message: gregg_vw (Oct 14, 2008 4:41 am)
#2736 of 2773 Re: [m4d_cow] by gregg_vw Oct 14, 2008 (4:41 am)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Oct 12, 2008 12:28 am) Room for negotiation, but at least its a realistic start. Newer XJs have very good reliability.
#2737 of 2773 by m4d_cow Oct 17, 2008 (10:55 pm)
Thanks gregg, can you tell me how much lower should I bargain for? I'm a bit confused as even Edmunds site quote it for almost 40k...
#2738 of 2773 National market for 05 XJ8L's less than 25,000 miles by euphonium Oct 30, 2008 (10:41 am)
Where in the country is the economy that enables the best deal on used 05 XJ8 L's with less than 25k miles?   There are two listed with same color, equipment, and miles. One in TX, the other in Southern CA. There is a $4,000 difference in the advertised price. The SC is $26,900 and the TX is $22,900. This is just one example of area differences.   So, who is offering the best prices, where? Thank you for your input.
#2739 of 2773 Re: California Spec engine? texas-jaguar.com? [potolock] by johne4 Nov 18, 2008 (8:14 am)
Replying to: potolock (Jan 31, 2006 10:01 pm) Texas cars direct, or now www.jagsforless.com WILL NOT show you these reports, they claim they don't even exist!! I'VE SEEN THEM!!!! They take the dogs from the auction, and slick them up in their body shop and dump them- what you see is what you get- fresh paint and bondo.   Having been through every inch of Texas Cars Directs entire operation in excruciating detail, (I mean EVERY inch) I can tell you emphatically that you are wrong and honestly, you either don't know what you're talking about or your simply trying to spread untruths.   1) they don't have a body shop of any kind. 2) I've seen the cars they buy immediately after coming back from auction, they are NOT "dogs."   And no, I've never bought a car from them, so I'm not posting this to alleviate some cognitive dissonance. You're simply not telling the truth. Sorry.

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