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XJ8 tire wear by leadfoot4
Aug 03, 2008 (2:56 pm)
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My wife has a 2001 XJ8, owned it since new. We really like the car, however it has a tendency to wear out tires. The OE tires, the Pirelli 600s lasted only 7000 miles, partly due to the rear end's "toe" adjustment being out of spec, from the factory.
 
I got that taken care of, and put on a new set of Firestone SZ50s. The car now has 16,000 miles, and I think I'll be lucky if they last through the end of this season! They're worn evenly, but that's only 9-10,000 miles out of these tires.....
 
I know that both sets of these tires are "high performance", and as such, don't last forever. I also realize that the "big cat" is a pretty heavy car. But only 16-17,000 miles from the two sets of tires, on a conservatively driven car, is a bit much...
 
How have you other XJ8 owners done on tire wear?
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Re: XJ8 tire wear [leadfoot4] by gregg_vw
Aug 03, 2008 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: leadfoot4 (Aug 03, 2008 2:56 pm)

That is nuts. The XJ is NOT a heavy car. It is quite svelte for its size and price class. You may have performance tires. They wear out fast. If you want wear, not razor sharp handling, buy all weather tires.
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As for tire mileage by euphonium
Aug 04, 2008 (8:15 am)
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Our Michelin X has 78,000 on them with 4/32 tread left on a 94 Town Car.
 
The XJ8 and TC weigh about the same, neighborhood of 4,000 lbs.
 
I've never had to hang iron with Michelins, but carry chains in case they're required.
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Re: XJ8 tire wear [leadfoot4] by denham
Aug 04, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: leadfoot4 (Aug 03, 2008 2:56 pm)

You have a Alignment problem. I have a XJ8 and present tires have over 26,000miles
and show little wear.Just because you paid for alignment does not mean it was done
correct, I own a Tire and Alignment shop and advise that you find a small shop that
does Alignment using the yellow pages and explain your problem over the phone.
Good Lucky
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Re: XJ8 tire wear [denham] by leadfoot4
Aug 04, 2008 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: denham (Aug 04, 2008 10:02 am)

Everyone, thanks for the feedback!
 
The first alignment I had done, at around 6000 miles, when I first realized that the rear tires were heavily worn. I had this done at the shop where I had been going for the last 25 years. They got the car "in spec" however they told me that they had used up all the adjustment to get the camber adjusted.
 
I just had the car done again at the local Jag dealer, beacuse the camber looked negative to me. They recently bought one of the newer "high tech" alignment machines. They said that there was a "little bit" of camber adjustment left, and they were able to make the necessary adjustments.
 
Either way, however, the little bit of negative camber wouldn't cause an overall shortness of tire life. Inside edge wear, yes, most definitely, but not the remainder of the tread.
 
I realize that "normal" passenger tires might last longer, however the car, in theory, should be outfitted with "Z" speed rate tires, and they generally are the 280-320 wear rated tires. As I mentioned, however, I think 10,000 miles is a little too quick to wear out a set of tires...
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While comparing reviews of by marsha7
Aug 07, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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a 2006 XJ8 and XJ8L to my friend's 2002 XJ8, a few questions came to mind...
 
1. the reviewers consider the 2006 XJ8 roomy, both front and back seats...did they lengthen the new design so that the 2006 XJ8 has the same rear seat room as the 2002 XJ8L???...(which would make the newer 2006 XJ8L even longer still???)...
 
2. HID headlights are standard on 2006, along with adjustable pedals (I am rather short, and moving pedals are a dream for me), not an additional option???
 
3. the standard 4.2L 300 HP engine is rated at 27 mpg highway...does anyone get close to this in real life???
 
4. off the wall question...since Jaguar prior to 2008 (2007?) was owned by Ford (now sold to Tata Motors), are all those pre-2007 Jags covered under warranty by Ford, or did warranty responsibility also transfer to Tata???...in other words, if I found a 2005/2006 XJ8 or 8L with 25K miles, and wanted the Ford ESP warranty, can they sell it to me, or is EVERYTHING now covered (or NOT covered) by Tata???...obviously, I would feel better with an ESP warranty from Ford...
 
5. the reviewers, both editors and consumers, rave about the build quality of the newer Jag...have folks here found it to be solidly built with all the new aluminum on it???
 
6. for those who have been in wrecks, does the aluminum dramatically raise the cost of body and chassis repair, and have your insurance premiums gone up much???
 
Thanks for any offered thoughts...
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Re: While comparing reviews of [marsha7] by gregg_vw
Aug 08, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Aug 07, 2008 6:21 pm)

Have you looked at a 2004 and up? They lengthened the wheelbase and raised the ceiling a bit, so you have more rear seat room. The L version has reclining rear seats, so you don't actually get the full wheelbase stretch for that model in additional leg room.
 
The 2005 Jag has one of the best reliability/build quality ratings in its class. Jaguar, not Ford, provides the warranties. If you buy a certified used one, you can get coverage to 100,000 miles.
 
The aluminum body is more expensive to repair and insure, but not as bad as the Audi A8. Jaguar will ship your car to a shop that does proper repairs if you are out of range of one.
 
Mileage before 2008 adjustments was rated at 29 mpg highway. You should be able to get 27 easily if you are not driving like a bat out of hell.
 
The 2006 on has some extra features included that the 2004 and 05 did not. Even more sound insulation is part of that.
 
I think it is a great car, and it sure is a bargain used. Drive one and see what you think.
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gregg by marsha7
Aug 08, 2008 (6:58 am)
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That is what I am asking...the 2002 seemd rather low, but it looks like (on paper) that the 2004-up have raised the ceiling somewhat...
 
Further, the back seat of the 2002 XJ8 is actually quite cramped...but, it almost seemed like the 2004-up XJ8 has more seat room whereas the "L" version was needed prior to 2004...in other words, a newer XJ8 may have as much ear seat room as the previous stretched 8L...is that correct, or am I just a failure at reading???
 
Lastly, can Ford dealers around the coutry repair Jags, or only Jag dealers???...since I occasionally drive from Atlanta to Mississippi to vist relatives, if a Jag broke down, there may not be a dealer for 200 miles...
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Re: gregg [marsha7] by gregg_vw
Aug 08, 2008 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Aug 08, 2008 6:58 am)

I don't think Ford dealers ever serviced Jaguars, except for the odd used one bought at a Ford dealer. Lots of service centers can service Jaguars...it doesn't necessarily have to be a dealer.
 
The 2004 and up XJ is classified as a large car. The 2003 and before was considered mid-size by the EPA. The legroom in a regular wheelbase XJ now is within half an inch of the amount offered by the pre-2004 long wheelbase version. But in addition, you have almost 2 and 1/2 inches more headroom. It goes from cramped before to quite adequate now.
 
BTW, a Jag is unlikely to break down on a long distance trip. They are quite reliable and long distance driving puts the least stress on key components.

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