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Jaguar XJ-Series, Sedan
#2671 of 2806 Re: 1999 vadam plas lots of problems [nomasjag]
Dec 04, 2007 (2:44 am)
Robin(Te Car Father)
Thanks for your reply. I agree the new Vadam Plas are too much $ for what you get. I DID like Jaguar but not all the problems. You might be right about my dealer but there is only one dealer within 100 miles. The reliability problem is confirmed by consumer reports, thus the depreciation. Any suggestions on how to make my local dealers life miserable. After all I invested a lot of $ and received a negative return? Still afraid of Jag especially the cost to repair the new aluminum bodies and the bad experience with the dealer. By the way this dealer was the only one that worked on my car.
Maybe time to bite the bulet and go to a reliable car. I hate to say it Infiniti M35 highest rated. Hate to do the Japanese thing but tired of spending time with my car in the shop. Besides there service is a 100 times better than Jag, they actually care about retaining customers. I don't think the Indians(tata motors) will be any better. Besides with the high value of the English pound the car and its parts will be more expensive!
#2672 of 2806 2001 or 2003 XJ8?
Dec 11, 2007 (7:33 am)
I am currently looking at two XJ8 (the VDP's I looked at recently were both crappy). One is a 2001 with 40k miles, one owner, a former Jaguar lease bought by a used car dealer specialized on Jags from Jaguar credit. It has a clean carfax and was always Jaguar serviced. The 2003 has 50k miles, is also a one owner car but there are no service records (neither in the carfax). It was traded in at a new car dealership and those guys don't have a clue about Jags. They are very similar in price (the '03 is listed $1k higher) and both seem to be good deals money wise. Which car would you guys go for?
Any comments or advices are appreciated!
#2673 of 2806 Re: 2001 or 2003 XJ8? [mstender]
Dec 11, 2007 (8:28 am)
I would seriously consider the 03 because it is only 1K more and you would not have any chance of purchasing an auto with a potential Nikasil problem. It was a known problem for late 97 - 01 4.0L V8 Jaguars and BMWs as well. The nikasil liner was abolished by the '02 -'03 models. You can read about it on the internet if you'd like. Also, I'd like to suggest the jag-lovers.com website. A wealth of info can be found there. BTW, for your information, the '98 - '03 models are technically referred to as X308 and included in the X300 forum on jag-lovers.com.
#2674 of 2806 Re: 2001 or 2003 XJ8? [hofiii]
Dec 11, 2007 (11:06 am)
Thanks for your response hofiii!
It seems like there are some conflicting reports regadring when Jaguar stopped using the Nikasil engines. What I found in my research was, that if the last 6 places of the VIN start with the letter 'F', then the vehicle does not use Nikasil and is fitted with steel liners. According to this the '01 i was looking at does NOT have the Nikasil. Do you have other info on this hofiii?
I am just checking out the jag-lovers.com forum; a lot of info there.
#2675 of 2806 Re: 2001 or 2003 XJ8? [mstender]
Dec 11, 2007 (11:22 am)
I believe you could be correct. Post this question and any other concerns on jag-lovers.com and you will get a definite answer. They know what they are talking about and are VERY helpful, I've found. Good luck!
#2676 of 2806 Re: 2001 or 2003 XJ8? [hofiii]
Dec 11, 2007 (12:06 pm)
Thanks hofiii for your tip. I just posted it at jag-lovers.com.
#2677 of 2806 Re: 2001 or 2003 XJ8? [mstender]
Dec 11, 2007 (12:12 pm)
You are welcome. I've found the website to be invaluable. They know their Jags!
#2678 of 2806 Re: 2001 or 2003 XJ8? [mstender]
Dec 11, 2007 (12:42 pm)
Please come back here and let us know what you find out - that would be helpful to many others in your situation.
#2679 of 2806 Re: 2001 or 2003 XJ8? [pat]
Dec 11, 2007 (2:28 pm)
Sure, I'll let you guys know.
Dec 19, 2007 (3:57 pm)
I see in this Jaguar section that there is not a thread on prices paid, etc.
A friend of mine is considering a 2008 XJ Vanden Plas... list is $76,000.... what would a realistic offer to give the dealer?