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Jaguar XJ-Series, Sedan
#2211 of 2801 Re: jaguar XJ8 BODY is VULGAR [wildcat05]
Aug 07, 2005 (8:33 pm)
I really hate 2004 and 2005 body style of the jaguar XJ8.
The new XJ's wheels are pushed out to the corner's, like the 1968 XJ. The previous XJ had a lot of front and rear overhang.
The new XJ's outer headlights are larger than the inner headlights, like the 1968 XJ. The previous XJ's headlights were the same size.
The new XJ has a curve in its rear door, like Jaguars of the 50s and 60s. The previous XJ did not have a curve in its rear doors.
Here is a link to the 2005 Jaguar Super V8. [B]It weighs over 800 pounds less than a BMW 760Li.[/B] It is the new XJ flagship. Geoff Lawson styled the new XJ. He died in June 1999. He also styled the new Jaguar S-Type.
2005 Jaguar Super V8
XJ's aluminum chassis.
#2212 of 2801 Re: jaguar XJ8 BODY is VULGAR [wildcat05]
Aug 08, 2005 (6:47 pm)
Gee, most of the auto rags think that the new body style is way too close to the old style (which no one ever thought was vulgar) for Jaguar's own good.
What is vulgar, is the resale. Not so incidentally, Friday's WSJ had an ad for a 2005 Jag XJ8 LWB lease deal that was interesting: $795 a month with no $$ down for 24 months. The kicker was that the Jag factory/dealer was going to kick in $6250 of "Jag cash". I read this as a $6250 reduction from list price. I was puzzled. Why just 24 months? Wouldn't the depreciation curve start to flatten out then?
#2213 of 2801 Re: jaguar XJ8 BODY is VULGAR [xkss]
Aug 08, 2005 (7:01 pm)
Although I do agree of more overall room on the inside and better technology BUT the inside is cheaply made. Some of the luxury that we are accustom to have been deleted such as the burl walnut veneer trim on all four doors are replace with black plastics. The burl walnut veneer trim around the center console of the inside cabin for cd's or radio in no longer there.
I absolutely detest where they have put the taillamps, it is repulsive and takes away from the body of the jaguar.
They have done away with the beautiful chrome that surround the outside of the jaguar with ugly FORD BLACK PLASTIC. This car looks totally an AMERICAN FORD JAGUAR with some European similarities.
#2214 of 2801 Re: jaguar XJ8 BODY is VULGAR [blckislandguy]
Aug 08, 2005 (9:40 pm)
How much mileage was allowed? Probably one of those 10,500 mile/year leases. Those won't work for me - but some old geezers who never drive can use one. Ford has done 24 month leases before, lots of 'em. They seem to make them work. I'm sort of glad they are coming back.
#2215 of 2801 Re: jaguar XJ8 BODY is VULGAR [nvbanker]
Aug 09, 2005 (6:46 pm)
Interestingly, no mileage was quoted (nor buyout figure, etc.). I thought that this was now required in all ads. It did say to see www.Jaguarusa.com for complete details. Slight correction: the ad was not in the WSJ but in Saturday's Boston Globe.
#2216 of 2801 Oil Type Recommendation- Natural or Synthetic?
Aug 11, 2005 (7:35 am)
A questions came up the other day among us Jag owners.
The discussion centered on the following:
Is it wise to switch to a synthetic in older XJ 6 and XJ8 engines as the synthetics are touted as having longer life and better lubrication qualities ?
There were conflicting opinions on this nor did anyone know if there an "official" Jaguar position?
Anyone have an expert opinion / experience ?
#2217 of 2801 Re: Oil Type Recommendation- Natural or Synthetic? [christchurch]
Aug 11, 2005 (10:32 am)
Not in a Jag, but experience as follows:
1966 Mustang 289, 130,000 miles & owned since '67 finally contained Mobil 1 two years ago and no problems, leaks, or any kind of negative results.
The myth it would cause leaking prevented me from trying it for many years, but after using it in our other cars for over 20 years I gave it a try. The Stang has never run smoother, quieter, & stronger.
Mobil 1 is the one.
Aug 18, 2005 (6:58 pm)
I had a look recently at the build your own Jag section of the Ford.com web site. Amazingly, I found that the Jag XJ options are very reasonable compared to the Germans. A complete cold weather package (3 stage heated front AND rear seats, heated wood wheel and heated windshield) is $1300 or so. Thats a fantastic price on a package that anyone living north of Washington, DC should snap up. Kind of makes the XJ into a real winter car. Interestingly, many manufacturers don't even offer heated back seats any more (e.g., Saab) or you can't get them with a heated wheel (e.g., Porsche) let alone a heated wood wheel. Another option reasonable priced were the zenon lights at $600.
These prices are great. For about 2K you could set up the car with a great cold weather package and zenons and be in complete comfort and safety come winter. Take a look at the Porsche option pricing some day for comparison. Furthermore, as I remember the option price sheet, Jag does not bang you for a $700 upcharge if you prefer metallic paint. Porsche, Volvo, LR, and others all get you on the paint.
The heated windshield is interesting. I think that Land Rover was the first to offer this and now it has migrated over to Jag. Who would have thought that Jag would benefit from the association?
All in all Jag offers great JD Power scores, good reliability, an EE degree is not required to turn the radio on, option pricing that can't be beat, and a 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. Why aren't these things selling?
#2219 of 2801 Re: Jag Option Pricing [blckislandguy]
Aug 18, 2005 (10:26 pm)
Why aren't these things selling?
Lack of dealerships contributes to their not selling. There is only one dealer in OR & he doesn't market agressively due to the monopolistic situation. There are two locations to buy Jags in Puget Sound & they are under the same ownership.
Yakima and Spokane have dealerships, but so far from all the rest, none wheel and deal.
How numerous are Jag dealers near your location?
#2220 of 2801 Re: Jag Option Pricing [euphonium]
Aug 19, 2005 (1:20 pm)
There are 3 or so in the San Francisco area, so you could drive down and deal. That would give you an opportunity to drive your new baby back. As a Jag owner, I gotta tell you that's not a bad thing.