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Jaguar XJ-Series, Sedan
Oct 07, 2004 (11:15 pm)
Having leased the 2004 VDP last week(Slate-Ivory),(my fourth Jaguar), I wanted to pass along some info. I had the 1993 XJ-6 but only for a year. Have (still) the 1995 VDP with many, many repairs. Never got stranded ,but did I pay the dealer serious cash over the years.(The price of luxury! I guess!).
Last year we got the S-type(2003) which has great ride manners and refinement in the Jaguar tradition. But the front seats, although bucket, are not comfortable. Otherwise, the car has been pure joy to drive.
So last week I got the 2004 VDP, they had great deal on it, with owner loyalty and incentives, I leased it for 745/month/24 months, including taxes. I had to come up with 1500 at inception. This at Bergen Jaguar, in Paramus New Jersey. The XJ-8's could be had for even less(slow sales...)
The car is great, very luxurious, soft supple leather, rides great(although I don't think as good as the 2003, maybe because it's lighter? and the air suspension?as opposed to regular suspenison?) Ergonomics are fine and rear space is great, for a change. BUT the same problem the front seats, although bucket, not comfortable, despite having a 16-way power adjustment. Otherwise the car is refined elegance with great roadside manners and definitely worth the price(for now !anyway!)
Thought I'd pass that along.
#1986 of 2806 XJ8 or XJ6/VandenPlas
Oct 19, 2004 (3:50 pm)
I am eager to purchase my first Jaguar sedan, which must be a pre-owned, though cost will not be too much a factor.
My personal taste dictates that I choose either a '96/'97 VandenPlas or a 1998/99 XJ8 ( I do not care for '98/'99 VdP because I do not like the wheels ), though otherwise I find them very lovely with the contrasting piping on seats and the charm of the folding picnic tables.
I also would like to purchase the car that would probably beset me with the fewest problems, over-all. My feeling is that, because the XJ8's are the most "American-ized" of all Jaguars, thus far, they might represent the very best choice for me. I would like you all to share your opinion on this issue.
Additionally, and on another subject, entirely: how "steal-able" are Jaguars? ... meaning, are they especially sought-after by car thieves? I understand that certain cars are prime candidates to be targeted by thieves, and was wondering if Jaguars figure on their "list".
Thank-you always for our wonderful forum; I remain very grateful to continue to have access to your ideas and opinions. Audra
Oct 19, 2004 (3:58 pm)
Generally, the newer they are, the better they got as far as reliability goes. I don't think they are an abnormal target for car thieves, having some pretty good anti-theft systems integrated into them all.
#1988 of 2806 Re: XJ8 or XJ6/VandenPlas [audra]
Oct 22, 2004 (4:19 pm)
Like nybanker said, the '98 models and later, had the new-acclaimed-engine(XJV-8,designed by Jaguar,money from Ford,it cost 25 million USD to make) and have a totally new, redesigned electrical system. For the Jaguar aficionados, very important, as the electrical system-everything from mirrors, to sunroof, to AC had it's problems. It's mostly what gave Jaguar, the unreliability they were tagged with.The whole electrical system had been a problem with the earlier models.
I agree with you, the wheels on the '98 and later models are nothing to write home about. But you have to balance that with the fact that from '98 on, it's a new car, with a new engine, and a new electrical system. I would rather pay 1,000 USD and put 4 new wheels on(from the '96 or '97 series) and get the reliability of those models. Granted, the '97 model was the last all-British model...so if you have a soft spot for that...by all means ...either way good luck!
#1989 of 2806 Thinking Hard About Becoming A Jag Owner
Oct 24, 2004 (5:50 am)
I'm new to this group, and hoping for a little guidance from the resident experts. My daily driver is an '04 Lincoln LSV8 Sport, but I've wanted to own a Jag for a long, long time. I have a friend's '86 Vanden Plas (175K kilometers) sitting in my driveway right now, on a long term "test drive", and, although it's OK, I think the V12 needs a few grand thrown at it to run at it's best, and there's a myriad of little things that need attention. He wants 12K CAN for it, complete with spare engine. Too much work and too much money, by my way of thinking.
While out and about this weekend, I came across my "dream Jag" at a local Nissan dealer. It's a '95 XJS 4.0 liter convertible, red, with tan interior and black top. It's got 65K kilometers on the clock, and is absolutely immaculate in every aspect. Never winter driven, everything works in it, and it has obviously not been cut short in the TLC department. It's not had the "dealer cleanup" done on it, but it's pretty well "showroom" other than the road grime accumulated since it was born. The previous owner had it from new as a second car. He traded in the Jag, and a Bonneville SSE (also immaculate), on a fully loaded Titan pickup, of all things.
Anyways, the reason for my post is to run the numbers past a few of the local experts. Please consider that I'm in Canada, and more specifically Eastern Ontario. The dealer wants $30K CAN for the car, and is contemplating storing it until spring, as "it's the wrong time to be trying to sell a convertible". What do you think, and what is the "right" price for this car? What pitfalls should I be aware of with this year and model?
By the way, I took it out for an extended test drive, unaccompanied yet, and I can say that it's just as tight, solid, and rattle free as my LS. I pushed it hard, and it never put a single foot wrong!
Oct 24, 2004 (2:52 pm)
If you want it for fun, and don't mind frequent maintenance, it should be great. Keep the LS for daily driving......
#1991 of 2806 Dealer Contemplating Storing a Car till Spring??
Oct 26, 2004 (6:20 pm)
Brooster54, ask your dealer if he collects cars or does he sell them?? No rational business person would store a depreciating asset in the hopes of selling it a half year later for a higher price. He will have heavy indirect costs in tying up his money, storing it, insuring it, cleaning it up again, watching it depreciate X per month, etc. Plus up your way, he could wind up with a cracked block come spring!
#1992 of 2806 Re: XJ8 or XJ6/VandenPlas [mgmmm1]
Nov 04, 2004 (12:31 pm)
... and many thanks to you, and to nvbanker for your responses. I greatly appreciate your efforts in clarifying the issues that been of concern to me. I drive approximately 3000 (yes, only three thousand) miles per year, so I tend to keep my cars a long time. Thus, I would like to own a car that sustains its "zing", not becoming passe the following year. I thought that with the lovely wood veneers, and perhaps the (extra) purchase of mouton overlays, I'd always feel that I was driving a "mink coat" of a car, no matter how long I owned it. I think that most people would describe Jaguars as: iconoclastic, beautiful and eccentric; perfect for me!
Again, my sincere thanks!
#1993 of 2806 Re: XJ8 L [houstonmerc]
Nov 05, 2004 (4:35 pm)
I had the same question as you, and I was wondering if you ever figured it out, or was offered any explanation by Jaguar or the dealer. Have you looked at the L to compare in person, or is maybe the number a typo? Thanks for your time.
#1994 of 2806 To Turbo or Not To Turbo
Nov 07, 2004 (9:50 am)
I'm working a decision to buy either a new Vandan Plas or the Super V8. If you load up the Vandan Plas, you are closer to the price of the SV8. So, it comes down to buying the turbo engine or not.
I'm wondering if the turbo is high maintenance and might it add enough to the resale value in 5-8 years to make it worthwhile buying it now.
It appreciate any perspectives.