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#1630 of 2806 99 VDP high miles
Jan 10, 2003 (9:55 pm)
Would like to get advice on the following Jag.
I'm looking at a 1999 VDP, 57,000 miles, Emerald Green with Cashmere interior, CD changer, traction control, heated seats, no service records. 30 day limited warranty, $31K. It appears to be very clean and seems to runs well. For sale at a non-Jaguar dealer.
The Carfax report shows this car spent its life in Utah as a lease vehicle and sold as a lease return to the current dealer.
I do not own a Jaguar yet and would like to know if this one is worth considering? Is the color combination OK? Should I be concerned with the mileage? What should I realistically have to pay for this car? Anything I should look for in particular? Heard bad things about engine problems. Should I look for a 2000 model to avoid this issue? Any other tips would be appreciated
#1631 of 2806 SAJD AVOID THAT CAR!!!
Jan 10, 2003 (10:08 pm)
DON'T buy it. 57,000 miles is too much to go without service records. And $31,000 dollars? What planet is the seller from? That price is inane. you can get a Select edition with less miles and NEWER for that kind of money. These cars, in my experience, need to be maintained properly, and have enough problems when they are maintained---I'd hate to drive one when you don't know how well it's taken care of, so the fact that it has no records is a major RED FLAG NOT TO BUY IT. Trust me, the car is seductive--you sit in it, smell the leather, and touch the wood and just think you're going to be loving life on the highway---but it doesn't handle all that well(compared to bmw's, mercedes, lexus's), it's got niggling little problems with it (windows won't go down, trunk latch will only open with the key fob, this is where the warrranty is VERY helpful), and isn't exactly designed with an immense amount of space inside. I have two of them, bought in a 1 year time span b/c at the time, I thought they were the nicest cars around. Now, nobody in the family wants to drive either one of them---hell, my daughter was home over winter break and she drove a camry we have instead of either of the jags just b/c she finds driving them kind of cumbersome. They look good as ornaments parked in the driveway though . . . Anyhow, to get back to the point. The example you're looking at doesn't seem quite kosher. It's a buyers market for these things---I listed one of mine in our local paper (the Washington post) for a WEEK last summer and got a grand total of . . .zero calls on it, and mine was a '99 XJ8 with 39,000 miles on it, and, if I recall correctly, I put it in the paper for $25,000------this is last JUNE, about 8 months ago. If you really have to find one, look around, make sure it's got records, and preferably, a warranty. Good luck
#1632 of 2806 Shehzad
Jan 11, 2003 (8:29 am)
Thanks for your input Shehzad. This car has been setting on the lot for almost two months now. I could probably about name my price (within reason). It sounds like even at a great price you would not touch it. Was your car a VDP? A VDP adds a few $K to the price.
Any comments on the color I should be looking at? I really like the Spindrift White and the Emerald Green. Are these OK. I'm concerned about how well the green will hold up in the hot Arizona sun. What color is better to hold the value of the car?
I called the local Jaguar dealer to ask about service records on this car and was told that they do not have access to records on any car that was not service at the dealer. I thought I read on some post that the dealers service records were networked throughout the country. Can anyone comment on this?
Jan 11, 2003 (9:42 pm)
well I did it!
I have a 2001 VDP I bought it at Galpin Jaguar
in CALI. for $42,900 w/20,000 mile and it is a Star Marked. I like it the more I drive it. Its like a small RR but you do not see me comming from miles away. Any other owners have advice for me
Jan 11, 2003 (11:49 pm)
someone call Jag ==do not make the XJ's loook like the X's...
MZ did that and now if you see a E class and a S class they look the same DUM
Jan 12, 2003 (2:02 am)
X and XJ don't look the same, nor do S and XK look like them or each other. Every Jaguar is distinctly different but at the same time uniquely Jaguar.
I have a question, our VDP has a coolant leak - not so much a leak, really, but more of like a pin prick somewhere along its coolant tubes. We cannot localize it, but we know it's there because of the orange puddle we're getting. Do any of you know of common places for this to occur? I suspect it's around where the hose attaches to something, perhaps as if the clamp has come loose or something. Thanks for any advice. Getting car to dealer as soon as possible, but don't want to loose too much coolant before then.
Jan 13, 2003 (8:20 am)
Sajd you can call Jaguar customer service with the Vin number of the car you're interested in to find out the name of the Dealership where it was service. $31,000 kind of high for a car with that kind of mileage.I have an 99 XJ8 with trac, heated
seats, roof and sounds that I purchase a year ago with 34,000 miles for $26,000. Winter is a good time to go shopping for a Jaguar.
#1637 of 2806 XJ40 price...
Jan 13, 2003 (3:59 pm)
I looked at a 1994 XJ6 for sale here locally, >70,000 miles, British Racing Green with tan interior, excellent condition. The guy was asking $10,500 for the car. This seems a bit on the high side for an XJ40 to me, even one in good shape. Am I just a victim of wishful thinking as far as pricing goes, or would a lower price be more reasonable for that car?
#1638 of 2806 99 VDP high miles
Jan 14, 2003 (9:52 pm)
My last post I asked for advice about about a 99 VDP I was considering buying. Emerald Green, 57K miles, no warranty, no service records,asking $31k. Thanks to those who replied.
I have since acquired the service records on this car and was a little surprised at the number of repairs this car received in a 30 month period. I'm not sure what to think of it since I have no experience with Jaguars yet. The repairs are listed below in chronological order:
* 13K miles
* 19K miles
Front brake pads
* 20K miles
* 27K miles
* 34K miles
New water pump,
New Front tires (seconds set)
* 41K miles
* 42K miles
Replace steering wheel cassette reel
* 45K miles
Replace cam cover gasket
* 46K miles
New Battery (2nd time),
Replace front brake pads (2nd time)
New water Pump (2nd time),
New engine set,
New timing chain tensioners left & right
* 48K miles
Replace starter motor,
Replace battery (3rd time)
* 49K miles
Replace engine assy ancillary equip,
Replace all three O2 sensors,
Replace ABS control module,
Replace throttle assy,
Replace mass airflow sensor,
Replace cam cover,
Replace Engine assy and ancillary equip.
I can read this as; 1) the car has had too much work on it and is not reliable. OR 2) the car was abused by the previous driver and will be trouble. OR 3) The car has had most of the major repair already completed a therefore is now more reliable and a better value. OR 4) All the above.
Only two oil changes show on my service history. The service manager at the dealer said the drive utilized a different shop for oil changes so I don't know how often it was changed or what kind of oil was used.
How would you experience Jaguar people read this history?
It looks like the engine was replaced in April 2002 at about 49K miles. Records show the engine had excessive back pressure. The car now has 57K miles (only 8K miles on the new engine!) What are the chances the new engine does not have Nikasil lining?
What would be a good price to pay for this car?
I would really appreciate any help in evaluating this information. HELP!
#1639 of 2806 1987 VDP at auction ...
Jan 17, 2003 (8:01 am)
A black beauty, common sense says stay away, can't test drive it, just listen as the driver starts it and rolls it into the auction bay.
If I can pick it up for under 2K should I?
I just want it as a weekend driver and an occassional 250 mile trip once a month...
Real life suggestions? I am used to credit card melters.