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Toyota Celica, Coupe, Hatchback
#89 of 100 blown engine
Aug 14, 2002 (10:11 am)
I currently own a 2001 Celica GT-S it has about 19,800 miles(majority Hwy mileage.) I recently blew the engine will down shifting to avoid an accident. The service rep. at the toyota service dept. stated that the timing belt a jumped a tooth and the all the pistons bent in the engine. He says he has only seen this once before. If anyone out there has had this problem please reply. Very Important!!!
Aug 14, 2002 (3:50 pm)
Did you miss-shift? That seems to be a very common problem with Celica's because of the nature of the gearbox. I recommend visiting newcelica.org, because I know (not personally) that a lot of people have made the same mistake.
Just out of curiosity, how would downshifting help you avoid an accident?
Aug 14, 2002 (3:58 pm)
a common problem for GTS's, with the extra-close gears, people downshift to 2 instead of 4, and redline the engine, blowing it up in the process. Supposedly, they redesigned the '02 gearbox so it could not do this. Toyota might have some assistance for the people in pre-'02s, since they formally recognized the problem.
Aug 14, 2002 (5:39 pm)
It sounds like Toyota was fixing a lot of engines for miss-shifts, but I don't think they recognized any sort of defect. It was always user error.
#93 of 100 Blown Engine
Aug 15, 2002 (6:28 am)
Well I thought by downshifting it would slow the car down faster than just using the brakes. This is my first manual car(that is what I was taught to do by a friend, not good advice I guess.)Well at this present moment my Toyota Service Dept. is waiting for a Toyota Rep. to look at my cars engine, to check for any defects. But for one thing I didn't mis-shift, I went from 6-5-4 and the engine made a loud noise and then it cut-off. I really can't say how loud it was because I had a AEM Cold Intake installed and a HKS Hiper Cat-Back. With those two items you really can't hear the engine. Thanks to everyone that gave me info.
#94 of 100 Slowing down
Aug 15, 2002 (6:41 am)
Just to let ya know about downshifting, it's much faster (in the case of an accident) to just use the brakes. If you're taking time to depress the clutch and search for a gear, you are losing time.
#95 of 100 misshifts
Aug 15, 2002 (7:54 am)
It's a problem also for Honda/Acura. But Honda MoCo isn't really generous in repairing/replacing the damage.
Aug 15, 2002 (3:38 pm)
Well, if you avoided the accident, it doesn't really matter what you did, but yeah, go with the brakes. And if you didn't miss-shift, I'm sure Toyota will cover the engine, I wouldn't worry about it. Good luck.
Aug 15, 2002 (5:44 pm)
Downshifting does help slow down a car and is a good idea to do in an emergency. You do have 2 feet and therefore can be slamming on the brakes at the same time you are depressing the clutch and downshifting.
Aug 28, 2002 (4:14 pm)
it does occupy you with more than one task at a moment when you should be focusing all your attention on where the car is going and what is happening outside.
NOT TO MENTION it is a bad idea in general to use clutch braking - it is very hard on the clutch, which was not designed for this purpose. It can also be hard on other parts of the drivetrain.