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#1 of 697 Hatchbacks as Fastbacks by bnormann Jan 12, 1998 (2:39 am)
I spied the 1999 Mercury Cougar at the Edmund's coverage of the Detroit Motor Show. I can scarcely believe that FoMoCo has NO hatches in its inventory. I guess that's why we (wife & I) test drove the Contour 2 years ago when we were shopping for her. ....ended up with a 96 Golf, an in-kind replacement for her 89 Golf. All's well that ends well.          Not that she would have had anything to do with a COUGAR, much too Boy-Toy for her tastes. I want to see more though, imagine what an SVT Cougar could do. It's a big step up from my CRX, I was really thinking more along the lines of an Integra GS-R. I think Honda calls them 3-door coupes, silly rabbits.
#2 of 697 carlady by mzn Jan 12, 1998 (2:19 pm)
Definitely too Boy-Toy!
#3 of 697 garth by garth Jan 15, 1998 (2:19 pm)
Don't fret, bnormann, you can suitably outfit an Integra for some boy-toy appeal: coffe-can tailpipe, dropped suspension with chrome wheels, huge off-center hood/roof stripe, shopping cart handle on therear decklid...
#4 of 697 bnormann by enigma23 Jan 25, 1998 (7:16 am)
THE COUGAR IS TOO BOY TOY? AND YOU CONSIDER THE GOLF TO BE ANYTHING BUT BOY_TOY!! If you have been reading magazine articles, which it doesn't seem like you have, you would no that it is one of the most sophisticated sport coupes that is coming to market in recent years. Sharp chiseled exterior, very luxurious for a economy car interior, and the latest safety features like side airbags, and traction control. And one of the best V-6 motors available today. Also being that it is engineered and tuned in Europe it gives a great ride for a sports-coupe and also predictable handling. LAST TIME I CHECKED THE GOLF WAS THE MOST BOY TOY CAR ON THE MARKET. WEENY 1.8L MOTOR and BEAM AXLE IN BACK. VW NEEDS TO BUILD A CAR FOR THE 90's INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BRING CARS LIKE THE BEETLE BACK.
#5 of 697 bnormann by bnormann Jan 26, 1998 (7:49 pm)
enigma,          Qoute the maven (carlady)        "At the moment, the word hatchback brings to mind "fuv" -- family utility vehicles!"           When you look at the VW Golf in these terms, I believe the current and most (all the good ones anyway, let's just ignore the painful '80s) of the past Cougars fall into the Boy-Toy category.         I know the Golf is a frequent victim of youthful excess, but that doesn't make the base model anything but a "fffuv" (fairly fun family utility vehicle).                  Regards,                       Bruce.
#6 of 697 Bnormann by enigma23 Jan 28, 1998 (3:09 am)
The VW Golf is considered by the auto world a hatchback. A car with 2-doors and a third door that opens way up is a HATCHBACK. How many hatchbacks do you know that are used or marketed as "family utility vehicles". NONE. One of the best hatchbacks in recent memory is the Ford Probe GT. ANd by no means is that a FUV. That was one of the highest performance hatchbacks available during the past several years. Also consider the Integra GS-R. Again, not a FUV. The Integra is also a all out pocket rocket performance car that is a hatchback. These two cars I have never yet seen being used as Family Utility Vehicles. The only FUV's I can think of are made by SAAB. The probe GT was extremely fun performance hatchback and the Cougar which basically replaces it is going to be an extremely fun performance hatchback, that is very refined and composed yet will carve backroads when asked to. That is not a definition of a Boy-Toy car.
#7 of 697 JRChocco by JRChocco Jan 30, 1998 (9:19 pm)
Yes, based upon the European Ford Triplets, I am sure the new Couger will be a real drivers car. However, it is not an FUV, as carlady puts it. A hatchback is a car with a hatch that typically seems to dovetail at the end and might have a slant of say 45 degrees. Since there is no deviding wall between the cargo area and the rear seats, most hatchback allow you too fold down the rear seats. Due to this and the way a hatch opens there are just naturally utilitarian benefits. A Saab 900 is the only "car" I know that can carry a 7-foot couch. I love Golf's dearly, but from a designers stand point they are wagons. They have a tailgate and side windows just as a wagon would. By some strange occurance though, they have avoided this foopaw and are considered hatchbacks. Long live the hatchback!!! Jon
#8 of 697 Philly Auto Show by enigma23 Feb 01, 1998 (4:23 am)
Just got back from the Philadelphia Auto Show. And can I tell you that pictures do not do the car justice. It looks 100 times better in person than in pictures. The Cougar has so many nice details in the styling that can't be seen by looking at pictures. It does really have a nice hunkered down, euro look with a angry front-end. The interior is also beautiful, it would feel at home in a $35,000 sports-coupe.
#9 of 697 '99 Cougar update by stacey Feb 23, 1998 (8:43 pm)
Does anyone have any info on the availability and pricing of the new Cougar? Unfortunately, I missed seeing it at the LA auto show because they unveiled it the second week. From the pictures, it looks great - very European and aggressive but also luxurious and well equipped inside and out. I'm curious if it is roomier than the cancelled Probe GT, especially headroom in the front and back and legroom for the back seats. I know that it's based on the Contour, so I'm hoping it's not cramped like the Eclipse or Integra.   I sold my Integra for those reasons and would enjoy moving up to a V6 more style and room. The latest I've heard is that it goes on sale in late May for between $16K and $22K. Can anyone update this info? Thanks!...Stacey
#10 of 697 Coupe or hatchback? by stacey Feb 24, 1998 (9:07 pm)
Could someone who has seen the '99 Cougar in person shed some light here? I was just re-reading the Feb.'98 Automobile magazine article on the Cougar which refers to it as a coupe, not a hatchback as the Probe it's replacing was. This may seem trivial to some, but a hatchback makes a much more versatile vehicle. It's an important selling point to the wife to get out of the four door rut and have something a lot more interesting without losing too much hauling capability. I can't quite tell from the pictures since car makers are getting good at disguising car configurations. Correct me if I'm wrong...I hope I am! P.S. If I'm right then we are in the wrong conference room.

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