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Mazda Protege, Sedan
#8570 of 24043 Transmissions...
Feb 26, 2002 (7:15 am)
First of all, when the "OD off" light flashes, that's a problem with the computer in the tranny. Read the manual, it says so. Secondly, Larry, you can buy the extended warranty still for both Proteges, since they are both still within warranty. Or you can get on the net and buy warranties for them (there are alot of places, just type in "extended warranty" in a search engine box). I know I should be the very last one to say this, but don't get rid of the car for one problem like that. It's a one in a million thing.
Also, I did have a little trouble with my 1999 automatic tranny and the 2001 as well. In the 1999, it started shifting weirdly when passing (like it was trying to slip), but no problem was found. I traded the car at 37.5K, so I don't know what happend to it. On the 2001, there was this loud-pitched squeaking sound when shifting sometimes. Mazda themselves told me they didn't know what it was.
Dinu: The Protege tranny is NOT the same one from the 626. Rest easy. It's a totally different piece. I thought the same thing as you, and checked extensively before purchasing my 2001 (I have at least 5 co-workers who lost 4-cyl. 626 trannies over the years). So it's all Mazda in there.
#8572 of 24043 write a review for your Protege...
Feb 26, 2002 (7:23 am)
in Edmund's newly renovated new/used car pricing section!
Let all the prospective buyers know how great our little Protege is!
Feb 26, 2002 (7:24 am)
Since you think Toyota is the best car maker since sliced bread, how do you weigh in on the engine sludge problem? Can all those owners be wrong, or is Toyota covering up a design defect?
#8574 of 24043 Bought my new speakers
Feb 26, 2002 (7:33 am)
Although I've only had my '02 ES for weeks, I was shocked from the start at just how bad the stereo sounded. Especially compared to my wife's MPV!
Best Buy just ran a sale where you buy one pair of speakers and get the second pair at half price. The timing was great. I went there last night and listened to everything and settled on new 6x9s for the rear: Rockford Fosgate 2269 models. They came out in 2001. They sounded better to me anyay, than anything else they had. And, they had a special where they would install them for free! The Gods are smiling! For the fronts I went with the Pioneer 6867. I had intended to buy the next model up but these actually sounded better to me. All in all the 4 speaker set was under $190. They'll be installed this Saturday.
It was a good lesson. I had done my research through Crutchfield to see what fit and made my list based upon specs alone. But when I got there and listend to the sound, my choices changed. I know the store vs. the car are 2 different sound stages, but, I'm confident I'll be much happier. I'm no audiophile and I didn't have a single Rockford Fosgate speaker on my list, but listening changed my mind. I'll post next week and let you all know whether I'm happy or not.
#8575 of 24043 There ya go, Larry...
Feb 26, 2002 (7:49 am)
Now you see what happens when you violate the standards of the PC (Protege correct) police.
You guys are too much.
#8576 of 24043 Is that some kind of snide remark ...
Feb 26, 2002 (8:03 am)
... about us being to hard on Old Head? I remember coming home from my vacation at the beach last summer to read some unnamed-member-who's-a-T.G.I.Friday's-Manager's remarks about my adventures running after sharks with tartar sauce and lemon wedges ...
EVERYBODY knows sharks taste better with cocktail sauce!!!
Feb 26, 2002 (8:21 am)
So Canada won the gold in hockey - it's their national past time so I would hope so. Let's see the Canadians come down here and try to beat us at baseball .... ain't gonna happen. And even though Canada has 1/10th the population of the US that has no bearing on how many athletes you can have competing. If I'm not mistaken, the number of athletes that you can send are based on your performances in previous competitions. So if Canada sent less people it's because the US has been better for a while.
Our 93 Civic had 128,000 miles when we bought it ...we put $600 in the car for tires, a timing belt, and a valve adjustment. We have since put 13,000 miles on the car in 10 months and have only had to change the oil and put gas in it. So since we paid $3000 for it our total cost was $3600. We could turn around right now and resale the car for $3600 within a day. Since the $600 was maintenance, which all cars require, and not mechanical the Civic has not cost anything to drive. Except for gas, which is cheaper than the Protege because it gets 35MPG to my 27MPG. So it's been shown the Civic is just as quick, gets better gas mileage, and is cheaper to own than a Protege ..... ummm, quick! somebody remind me why I bought the Protege ..
As far as Consumer Reports, since you brought it up, the Civic has performed far better than the Protege. Especially impressive since the Civic has been the best selling small car in the US for a few years now. They sold 320,000 Civics in 2001 vs. maybe 60,000 Proteges. Even if 1% of all owners have problems there would be 3200 Civic owners complaining and only 600 Protege owners. And if you look at CR the Civic still has far fewer problems. I'm not trying to bash the Protege but trying to make the Pro look better than the Civic is pretty hard when you consider how many things the Civic has over the Pro. Don't get my wrong I love my car but I sure hate the fact that I write a $400 check out every month and he only puts gas in the Civic. But then again he does have a car note on his 94 Lexus??? for $350 a month .... with no problems with it either .... what the heck am I thinking???? Damn those impulse buys to hell....
As far as the Mazda presentation about the 626 ... it won awards in the late 80's? That's almost 20 years ago. The 90's and the 00's have been dominated by Honda and Toyota and for good reason. The 93+ 626's had major tranny problems thanks to Ford and the latest one offers less power, room, and features than it's competition. But hey they do have great financing deals on Mazdas .. just like Hyundais (but the Hyundai has a better warranty) Isuzu's, and Chryslers. Great company to be in.
#8578 of 24043 As for the sludge....
Feb 26, 2002 (8:27 am)
I have known about Toyota's sludge for a little over 2 years now. I'm one of the first few people who came in here talking about it and then fxashun picked up my cause since he has nothing better to do. It doesn't mean that you can't buy a Toyota it just means that you have to have your oil changed AT 3000 miles and if you are buying a used one you better have it checked out.
Feb 26, 2002 (8:30 am)
True that in order to get to the Olympics, you must qualify in competition beforehand. However, I believe the point about us having 1/10th the population (remember, it was not I who first stated this) is in regards to us having a smaller pool of people to draw from. Of course if you have more people, there is a greater chance that some will be better atheletes. It's simple math there.
Also, I don't follow baseball much, but it looks to me like most players are from Cuba or the Dominican Republic, etc, etc., not the States.
Anyway, enough of that...The dang buzzing is back on my passenger side. Driving me nuts. Anybody find a solution yet?