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Mazda Protege, Sedan
#6741 of 24043 Changes...
Dec 21, 2001 (7:57 am)
I had 2 Gen3 Proteges (a 1999 and a 2001, both engines too) and never had problems with either one. I will admit, the 1999 DX I had used to shift a little funny when passing. It would pause for a moment between shifts. The dealer never found a problem with the car, and I traded it in with 37,364 on it with nary a problem but that and the CD player that liked to hold my CDs hostage. I took the DX to the dealer once for each problem, and it wasn't found either time, so I never went back to them. And no problem with the car. Just dealt with the two things.
The 2001 was a little bit more problematic. The radio died, it refused to start one on me (at less than 10K miles!), the driver's power window wouldn't go down, and the brake rotors were warped (my fault, from washing too soon after parking it). So every car is different.
Customer service: It depends on the dealership you go to. I have had great customer service before from Mazda, and poor customer service. The dealer where I bought the 2001 was great, but the one near my work (about 50 miles south of where I bought the 2001) sucked. I will say, however, that I get treated better with VW customer service than Mazda (hard to believe, eh?). They gave me a free loaner when I complained (twice!) and also wash and clean the car every time you leave it for service.
#6742 of 24043 I think mine has it...
Dec 21, 2001 (8:01 am)
as a dealer installed option, I believe that's what's listed on the window sticker. I will double check to make sure before I go to the dealer complainin' about not getting what I bought.
And yes I know having an engine block heater in my area is totally irrelevant, but what the heck
Dec 21, 2001 (8:11 am)
What strain on the battery from the block heater? The block heater plugs directly to the cord to the outlet. How is this straining the battery? Very curious, as I plug mine in all night almost every night as we've been fairly cold here in Calgary.
Dec 21, 2001 (8:38 am)
My new 2002 Protege LX came with Bridgestone Potenza RE92 P195/55R15 84V tires. The treadwear grade is 160 (the lowest number I've ever seen), traction A, temperature A. The TireRack.com web site only lists a Potenza tire of this size as having a treadwear grade of 260! And furthermore, practically every customer comment (on this model tire, at this web site) claims the tire to be absolute junk, and having terrible rain and snow driveability!
Can anyone having the same tires please tell me your experiences? And why would Mazda want to sully their fine reputation by equipping new Proteges with such tires (if the bad notices are anywhere near to the truth)?
Another matter: Why on earth does the Owner's Manual say "Because you need a special tool to retighten the filter, an Authorized Mazda Dealer should do the work"? I haven't gone under the car yet, but I always change my own filters and if I can get the old filter off surely I can retighten the new filter?
Happy Holidays to all Protege owners!!!
Dec 21, 2001 (9:19 am)
What I meant to say is that we use block heaters to prevent strain on the battery on a cold start. Never meant to say it damages the battery. Does that make sense? Maybe I didn't phrase it properly...
And no they are not standard in Canada.
Alternator: The Poortenzas are not the greatest tires you will have, that's for sure. I did drive with them in the snow and they are ok. I initially wanted to have 4 separate snow tires for winter, but after a few cms (5-7 cms.) in Toronto last week, I changed my mind. The Potenzas LOOK LIKE they aren't decent tires, but I think they are ok in the snow. If you look ahead and anticipate other people coming into your path, there shouldn't be any problems. Also, use D2 if going below 40km/h (25mph???) as the engine brake will stop you without touching the brakes. If you have a 5 spd, then downshift. You can also have OD on, then to slow you down, turn it off so you have the "OD off" indicator on. This revs the engine, which in turn slows you down. Try it at different speeds and you'll see.
In the rain, they're not great if you need to make an emergency stop, say on the highway. So always look for an escape route if you have to slam on the brakes b/c it will take time. As long as you keep a fair distance and SCAN THE ROAD, all should be good.
Dec 21, 2001 (10:04 am)
Whew...maybe I just mis-read it. At any rate, it's not a problem then.
Block heaters are NOT standard in Canada, but the dealers here in Calgary (and probably many other cold places) install them immediately upon receiving the car because people are going to want them. However, there are many places in Canada where temperatures do not hit low extremes, and block heaters are not required.
The potenzas have perfomred well in the snow thus far. We've had some really nasty days and I've had no trouble (knock on wood) yet. I will use them this winter, but next year, I know that I will want/need a dedicated set of winter tires.
#6747 of 24043 Call centers etc.
Dec 21, 2001 (10:17 am)
I would say that in general the most jaded individuals work on the hot-line. Face it, all they hear about are problems. So you have 20 people supporting hundreds of of thousands of owners.
In a previous life I did warranty claim processing and you quickly develop opinions of certain vehicles. The danger there is that you aren't always familiar with how many of those vehicles are on the road.
And a note to my buddy Offset:
If you think a CR rep has access to internal documents you are way too naive. No company is that stupid. They basically get scripted responses to common issues.
#6749 of 24043 Rear Defrost switch - installation questions in a '95
Dec 21, 2001 (11:27 am)
(I posted this in the Acc. and Mods board, but don't know how often people visit that, and was hoping to get a reply soon to install this over the weekend ...)
I bought myself a switch because mine seems to have shorted out. I bought it a day before I left on my road trip from Utah to the east coast, so didn't have the time to install it then.
Its much more humid here, and I think I should instll it soon. I received a quote which includes over an hour of labour - my question is- how difficult is it to instal it? Does the dash need to be dismantled? Can I just yank out the old switch and puch this in? (There are no wiring connections, just plug-in type contacts)
For those that have/had an older Protege, this switch is in the middle of the dash unit, and is about 0.75 in wide by 1.5 in high.
#6750 of 24043 Strut Bar for 95 DX
Dec 21, 2001 (11:28 am)
I posted this in the Acc. and Mods board, but don't know how often people visit that, so ...)
Available? If so where?
Any good? I have high profile 175-70 13 inch wheels, I might upgrade those too/instead. Although I have so much tread life still left on the Michelin X-Ones (13K covered, rated for 70K or 75K!), it would be a pity to have to trash them! And on the East Coast, there's no point (or space in my apartment) to store these to use as winter tires.
Any tire/wheel combo upgrade recommendations? Size, tire type (all-season, performance etc) (design too!). Virginians - how much does it snow here? It hasn't snowed once yet, but seems to rain a lot!
Is it easy to install the strut bar/brace? I don't have a cruise control unit in my car, I remember someone (speedyPT) had to cut away a part of that to make his brace fit.